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anglista2008  +  718274 Wed, 06 May 09 11:31 AM
Hi,


Are presume, assume, suppose and presuppose 100% interchangeable synonyms, without the slightest difference in meaning?


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Mister Micawber  +  718289 Wed, 06 May 09 11:42 AM
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Of course not; very few-- if any-- are. The affix 'pre-' means 'before', and that color is added to the two words here that bear it.  Otherwise, differential collocations among synonyms always exist.

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anglista2008  +  718296 Wed, 06 May 09 11:51 AM
hmm... could you provide me with some examples clearly showing the difference? (I have a thesaurus, but it doesn't give any examples) How am I supposed to know how such nuances work like? Sorry for being a pain in the ass...


For instance, in the following sentence I wouldn't know which one fits best:


Normal 0 21 Even if one is to assume/presume/presuppose and accept the fact that the American psyche has been possibly irremediably distorted/malformed by the 9/11 attacks and might perhaps be biased, it would be incommensurable to deny/gainsay the prevailing...


Mister Micawber  +  718310 Wed, 06 May 09 11:58 AM
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How am I supposed to know how such nuances work like?-- Experience.  Even dictionaries and thesauri do not have the time, space or patience to try to list them all.   And 'what fits best' is often in the mind of the writer.  Read, read, read.


Even if one is to assume and accept the fact that the American psyche has been possibly irremediably distorted by the 9/11 attacks and might perhaps be biased, it would be incommensurable to deny the prevailing...

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anglista2008  +  718317 Wed, 06 May 09 12:03 PM
but... why? why can't I use presuppose or presume, or gainsay? this is not supposed to be a typical, everyday sentence but part of academic discourse...
Mister Micawber  +  718365 Wed, 06 May 09 01:15 PM
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You can if you wish, I suppose-- I just inserted my choices.  Not 'presume' or 'presuppose' because there is no need to indicate a priorness; no 'gainsay' because speaking is not of the essence here.

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