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Case Assigner  +  341682 Wed, 21 Mar 07 01:08 PM
I already asked whether someone studies generative grammar. I have some questions concerning excercises taken from a book. I do not want to ask my Prof. if everything is correct or not. There will be lots of questions, and I´m going to ask all of them. I would be very pleased if there is someone out there who can help me to find the way through the nitty-gritty of generative grammar.

Here is the first question..... I am not pretty sure of all of them.

1)      Identifiy the embedded clauses in the following sentences. Classifiy them according to whether are finite clauses, non – finite clauses, or small clauses.

 My answer is marked with brackets. Furthermore, there is an explanation of my choice.

a)      [ That Louise should have left ] surprised everyone.

“That” selects finite clauses, therefore we find a finite clause here


b)     [ The news that Louise has left] surprises everyone.

Here the embedded clause is a finite one.


c)      I consider [ Louise an impossible choice ].

What we find here is an example of a small clause, because it does not contain a verb. 


d)     I wonder when they will anounce  [that Louise has left. ]

A finite embedded clause. “That” introduces finite clauses.


e)      I wonder [ whom I will meet at the party.] 

This is a finite clause because will is part of I, which is inflected for tense ( at least in the book the exercises come from ) Furthermore, whom is a complementizer.


f)       I asked her [ what to do.]

This is a non-finite clause because of the non-overt subject that is controlled by “I”.


g)      [ The woman whom you will meet at the party ] is his sister.

A finite embedded clause, because will is inflected for tense. See e)


h)      I need a knife [ to cut the bread with.]

A non-finite clause. “to cut” = infinitive

Is this one here the same like in example f)?  This one puzzles me….. I do not understand what happens here. It cannot be the same like in example f)


i)        I consider [ that Louise is the best choice.]

Again, a finite clause because of tense and the introducing “that”


j)       [ For Louise to have left ] surprised everyone.

The same like in a), but this time it is non-finite. “For” introduces non-finite clauses.


k)     I consider [ Louise to be the best choice.]

Looks nearly like a small clause, but it isn´t. It is a non-finite clause because of “to be”.


l)        [When they had announced that Louise had left ] everyone was relieved

Not really sure here, I am wondering whether it is possible to claim that the underlined partis the embedded

sentence. Nevertheless it is a finite embedded clause.

 

m)    I am not certain [ that Louise has already announced that she is going.]

A finite embedded sentence.

 

n)      They all expect [ for Jim to come back.]

A non-finite embedded clause….. “for” is introducing this clause here.

 

o)     They arranged for us  [ to meet Bill at the cinema.]

The same like in f) A non-overt subject controlled by “us”; a non-finite sentence.

     


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CalifJim  +  341958 Thu, 22 Mar 07 07:15 AM
I already asked whether someone (anyone) studies (is studying) generative grammar. I have some questions concerning excercises taken from a book. I do not want to ask my Prof. if everything is correct or not. There will be lots of questions, and I´m going to ask all of them. I would be very pleased if there is someone out there who can help me to find the way through the nitty-gritty of generative grammar.

Here is the first question..... I am not pretty (very) sure of all of them.

1)      Identifiy the embedded clauses in the following sentences. Classifiy them according to whether are finite clauses, non – finite clauses, or small clauses.

 My answer is marked with brackets. Furthermore, there is an explanation of my choice.

a)      [ That Louise should have left ] surprised everyone.

“That” selects finite clauses, therefore we find a finite clause here OK


b)     [ The news that Louise has left] surprises everyone.

Here the embedded clause is a finite one.  Not sure.  I would think that The news should be left out of the brackets.  Just that Louise has left is a finite clause.


c)      I consider [ Louise an impossible choice ].

What we find here is an example of a small clause, because it does not contain a verb.  Yes.


d)     I wonder when they will anounce  [that Louise has left. ]

A finite embedded clause. “That” introduces finite clauses.  Yes.


e)      I wonder [ whom I will meet at the party.] 

This is a finite clause because will is part of I, which is inflected for tense ( at least in the book the exercises come from ) Furthermore, whom is a complementizer.  OK.


f)       I asked her [ what to do.]

This is a non-finite clause because of the non-overt subject that is controlled by “I”.  Don't know what "controlled by "I"" is.  Otherwise OK.  It's non-finite.


g)      [ The woman whom you will meet at the party ] is his sister.

A finite embedded clause, because will is inflected for tense. See e)   Again, I think The woman should be left out.  The finite clause starts with whom.


h)      I need a knife [ to cut the bread with.]

A non-finite clause. “to cut” = infinitive  True.

Is this one here the same like (as) in example f)?  This one puzzles me….. I do not understand what happens (is happening) here. It cannot be the same like (as) in example f)  No.  f) has an indirect question used as a noun.  Here you have an adverbial answering the question "Why?", "For what purpose?"


i)        I consider [ that Louise is the best choice.]

Again, a finite clause because of tense and the introducing “that”  Yes.  Plus the inflected form is.


j)       [ For Louise to have left ] surprised everyone.

The same like in a), but this time it is non-finite. “For” introduces non-finite clauses.  OK.


k)     I consider [ Louise to be the best choice.]

Looks nearly like a small clause, but it isn´t. It is a non-finite clause because of “to be”.  OK.


l)        [When they had announced that Louise had left ] everyone was relieved

Not really sure here, I am wondering whether it is possible to claim that the underlined partis the embedded

sentence. Nevertheless it is a finite embedded clause.  I'm beginning to wonder now what the definition of embedded is.  I would call the bracketed portion an adverbial clause.  I don't know if it's considered embedded.  The underlined part is a finite embedded clause in my opinion.

m)    I am not certain [ that Louise has already announced that she is going.]

A finite embedded sentence. OK. Also that she is going.

n)      They all expect [ for Jim to come back.]

A non-finite embedded clause….. “for” is introducing this clause here.  I would say that the for is ungrammatical.  They all expect [Jim to come back].  Non-finite.

o)     They arranged for us  [ to meet Bill at the cinema.]

The same like in f) A non-overt subject controlled by “us”; a non-finite sentence.  I'd include for us in the brackets.  non-finite clause.

CJ

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Case Assigner  +  342068 Thu, 22 Mar 07 02:08 PM
Thank you very much..... especially for the correction of the mistakes I have done. I will check the sentences again, maybe I can find an answer to the problematic cases. The problem is that the book I am learning with does not really offer good explanations to all these cases. Therefore it is really hard for me to decide where the embedded clause starts and where it ends. In the book hasn´t occured a single embedded clause that is in between a senctence. The book only deals with sentences where the embedded clause is at the beginning or at the end.
Well, before I am going to ask my next question, I want to clarifiy this one.
Btw, the next one will be about argument structure Smile [:)]
Case Assigner  +  346903 Tue, 03 Apr 07 06:28 PM
Ok, I made some changes..... Talked to my Prof. today and he said that an important criterion for identifying embedded clauses is to have lexical verbs with a tense form.... Not an infinitival one. Hmmmm, makes me wonder whether there is good reason to change something in g)...

I changed l) into:
 [When they had announced [ that Louise had left ]] everyone was relieved.
We have finite embedded clauses here.

Furthermore I changed m):
I am not certain [ that Louise has already announced [ that she is going.]]
A finite embedded sentence. Do I have to close the brackets after announced?
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