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The_legend  #243534  Fri, 07 Jul 06 04:28 PM

Can u find 14  with using the odd numbers  (1,3,5,7,9)

but just only + & -

  
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Notwen  #243734  Sat, 08 Jul 06 11:14 AM
Hello,

it seems to easy... :

14 = 7 + 7 = 9 + 5

Those are 2 answers with odd one-digit numbers.  There are many more answers if you really meant odd numbers.
  
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The_legend  #243751  Sat, 08 Jul 06 01:46 PM

nooo,u can only use (1,3,5,7,9)only once and u have to use all of these

  
Notwen  #243760  Sat, 08 Jul 06 03:10 PM
I you mean using those five numbers only once, in four operations to be chosen among (+,-), then it's easy to prove that there is no solution.
  
The_legend  #243785  Sat, 08 Jul 06 04:49 PM
yes..,there is a solution with these
  
Notwen  #243790  Sat, 08 Jul 06 05:13 PM
I will write the proof for you :

When you add or substract an even number of odd numbers, you obtain an even number.
When you add or substract an odd number of odd numbers, you obtain an odd number.

Five is an odd number, 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 are 5 odd numbers, then adding or substracting those gives an odd number. No matter how you order the operations.

Conclusion : it can NOT give 14.


 The_legend wrote:
yes..,there is a solution with these
If you think I have, for the second time, misunderstood the statement of your problem, please be kind enough to express it more clearly.  For example if you meant it in base 11 instead of 10, please state it clearly.
Or find an error in my proof if you can.
  
Anonymous  #243973  Sun, 09 Jul 06 04:23 PM

There is no mathematic error in Notwens proof.

But I think legend was meaning this...

9+5-3-7=4 and then there is left 1 and 4

Now we have "used" all these numbers only ones and found 14.

Have I found the solution?

  
Notwen  #243989  Sun, 09 Jul 06 05:36 PM
Hi,

this is funny     Smile [:)]
At least you have found a statement and a solution that could more or less fit The legend's demand !

With such vague statements, we can look for other solutions, for example :
9 - 5 + 3 + 7  =  14   and   14¹ = 14

Or in base eleven, we have 9 + 7 + 1 + 3 - 5  =  14  (because 14 is the way to write fifteen in base eleven)
In base fifteen : 9 + 7 + 5 - 3 + 1  =  14
Etc.

Or  19 - 3 - 7 + 5  =  14
Or  15 - 3 + 9 - 7  =  14

The more vague the statement, the more solutions you find...  (Hum... does this sentence sound English ?)

  
Anonymous  #244330  Mon, 10 Jul 06 07:40 PM

Well, my younger brother came up with this solution and it seems the most suitable one.

9 + 7 + 5 + 3 - 1 = 9 + 14

  
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