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Seraphin  +  548878 Thu, 31 Jul 08 12:26 AM
Which is correct? A university or An university.
I googled this question and found conflicting results

e.g. 
Charles Dickens in All the Year Round used "Wickliffe, teacher himself in AN university, felt ..."

Many books use titles 
"the launching of a univeristy"
"the idea of a university"
"a unviersity for the 21st century"

I am confused 
Best answer by Yankee  +  548882 Thu, 31 Jul 08 12:50 AM
The use of 'a' or 'an' is based on pronunciation

If a word begins with a vowel sound, you should use 'an'.  For example:

- an apple
- an elephant
- an idea
- an orange
- an umbrella
- an hour
- an SOS

If a word begins with a consonant sound, you should use 'a'.  This includes some words that have a vowel at the beginning.  For example:

- a ewe
- a university
- a uniform
- a unique person
Best answer by CalifJim  +  780778 Tue, 16 Jun 09 01:23 AM
Grammar Geek
“that's where there are no rules (that I know of)”
Possible "rule".


If the third letter of a word with initial u, other than a word with the prefix un-, is a vowel, it almost certainly will need "a", not "an".


an um b rella

an un c le

an un d erstanding


an un stable situation

an un healthy atmosphere


an un informed person

an un educated man


a un i verse

a uk e lele

a uv u la

a us a ge question


CJ

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Avangi  +  548879 Thu, 31 Jul 08 12:31 AM
AmE uses a university.  BrE uses an more liberally.

My mother used to tell the one about the Englishman who was visiting America, and heard a howling sound one dark night in the woods.

E:  What's that?

A:  It's an owl.

E:  I know its an (h)owl, but who's (h)owling?

I believe "an university" is obsolete, but AmE would say "a historical novel" while BrE would say "an historical novel, " if I'm not mistaken.

I wonder if in the past "university" was pronounced "ooniversity"?

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nona the brit  +  548903 Thu, 31 Jul 08 01:41 AM
also 'a' university in British English.

Dickens was writing a long time ago.

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yizhivika  +  549422 Thu, 31 Jul 08 11:38 PM
Yes, Yankee's comments above pretty much speak for British English usage, as well as for American English. The initial u in the 'consonant' examples given by Yankee is invariably pronounced as yoo.

As for British usage of 'An historic(al)', you will still occasionally find it, and I think one is supposed to drop the h when pronouncing it, i.e. "An 'istoric(al)", but I suspect it'll die out eventually, and we'll all use "A historic(al)" instead.
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How does university have a consonant sound at the beginning? U is a vowel and it makes a vowel sound when spoken.  Surely it would be better to say there is no real rule that denotres the usage of these a's and an's.
Grammar Geek  +  780248 Mon, 15 Jun 09 05:21 PM
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“How does university have a consonant sound at the beginning? U is a vowel and it makes a vowel sound when spoken.  Surely it would be better to say there is no real rule that denotres the usage of these a's and an's.

 

 

University has the "y" sound of Yeti, Yamaha, and yak, which is a consonant.

 

It is quite unlike the vowel sound of umbrella or unknown.

 

You need to know how the word is pronounced - that's where there are no rules (that I know of) - UN is "yoo" in universe and university, but "uhn" in unknown. You can't tell by looking how it's pronounced, but once you know that, then there most certainly is a rule for using "a" or "an."

 

 

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Grammar Geek  +  781506 Tue, 16 Jun 09 01:51 PM
Excellent!

So, remove the "un" words from the pile, and look at the third letter.

 

Gotcha!

 

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