Chuck Riggs    650582 Tue, 28 Oct 08 04:42 PM "The word "set" has over 100 meanings or uses. - from the American Language section of www.odd-info.com" "Wasn't it you who told us this a few weeks ago? And if so, didn't you notice our telling you that AUE users already know that kind of thing? And if it wasn't, my apologies; but, well, we do." Can one of us speak for all of us? In other words, Mike, what's this we ***, kimosabe? Regards, Chuck Riggs Near Dublin, Ireland Chuck Riggs Regards, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, United States, American, Ireland, Languages, Apologies

	pritsy    650598 Tue, 28 Oct 08 07:06 PM Is the sibilant in "yous" always vocalized? I have no taped "Sopranos" shows to check. pritsy

	Roland Hutchinson    650601 Tue, 28 Oct 08 08:28 PM "There are lots of us, sure, but in each case, ... and "yous", if you ever need to go that far." "Is the sibilant in "yous" always vocalized? I have no taped "Sopranos" shows to check." Do you mean "voiced" (pronounced (z))? Yes, I believe it is. The alternate, probably more common, spelling "youse" suggests the pronunciation more clearly. Roland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap (at) verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. Roland Hutchinson Spelling, Pronunciation, Speaking, Writing

	Adam Funk    650614 Tue, 28 Oct 08 09:36 PM "However that number of meanings is nothing compared with the number of meanings of "you"." "I know only two meanings, well covered by "you" and "yous", if you ever need to go that far." "You all" has the same semantics as "yous", right? Unix is a user-friendly operating system. It's just very choosy about its friends. Adam Funk Relationships, Friendships, Writing, Friends, Semantics

	Glenn Knickerbocker    901709 Tue, 28 Oct 08 10:00 PM ""You all" has the same semantics as "yous", right?" I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "you all guys." ¬R Glenn Knickerbocker Writing, Semantics, Numbers

	Mike Lyle    650616 Tue, 28 Oct 08 11:36 PM "Wasn't it you who told us this a few weeks ... And if it wasn't, my apologies; but, well, we do." "Can one of us speak for all of us? In other words, Mike, what's this we ***, kimosabe?" All for one , and one for all, I reckon. And the fecundity of the word "set" has arisen several times in a.u.e. But I'll revise, as follows: "And if it wasn't, my apologies; but, well, apart from those of us who don't, we do." Mike. Mike Lyle Apologies

	Dr Peter Young    901778 Wed, 29 Oct 08 08:25 AM "Is the sibilant in "yous" always vocalized? I have no taped "Sopranos" shows to check." "Do you mean "voiced" (pronounced (z))? Yes, I believe it is. The alternate, probably more common, spelling "youse" suggests the pronunciation more clearly." In some British and Irish dialects, it's definitely voiced. In (Birmingham? Liverpool? Geordie? Glesga? I can't remember off-hand) it's more like "Yowse". My late and much-missed Irish Mother-in-Law pronounced it as "Yez" (short "e"), usually in the construction "Yez all". The plural "you" is sadly lacking in "standard" English. With best wishes, Peter. Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / \ England. and / / \ > > >\ > / \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \ / \ / > \> \ / \ (Email Removed). Dr Peter Young Dialects, Spelling, Pronunciation, Constructions, Plurals, Speaking, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, Writing, Ireland, Languages, Numbers

	Einde O'Callaghan    901790 Wed, 29 Oct 08 11:38 AM "I know only two meanings, well covered by "you" and "yous", if you ever need to go that far." ""You all" has the same semantics as "yous", right?" I understand that the pronunciation is usually "yall". Einde O'Callaghan Einde O'Callaghan Pronunciation, Speaking, Writing, Semantics, Numbers

	Pat Durkin    901801 Wed, 29 Oct 08 02:31 PM "Do you mean "voiced" (pronounced (z))? Yes, I believe it is. The alternate, probably more common, spelling "youse" suggests the pronunciation more clearly." "In some British and Irish dialects, it's definitely voiced. In (Birmingham? Liverpool? Geordie? Glesga? I can't remember off-hand) it's more ... it as "Yez" (short "e"), usually in the construction "Yez all". The plural "you" is sadly lacking in "standard" English." In my region, not to vocalize a final "s" (in youse) would indicate you are possibly of Norwegian descent or are pretending to it. (I think one might include those descending from other Scandianvian groups, but my experience has been among second and third generation descendents, especially on or about Syttende Mai.) Pat Durkin Dialects, Spelling, Pronunciation, Constructions, Plurals, Speaking, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, Writing, Ireland, Languages, Numbers