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DanielJamesSimon  +  76846 Sat, 26 Feb 05 04:29 PM
matthewq, you are my hero. Thanks for all your posts.

to anita_a: Every girl or woman has the right to decide whether or not to have sex and take the risk of getting pregnant. Their right ends once they become pregnant and another human being lives inside of them. It is ironic that you say, "everyone should be given a chance to decide for their life." Should everyone be given the chance to decide for another's life, i.e. their unborn child's? What about the chance of the unborn child to decide for their life?

I am not going to enter further this debate because I am part of another web forum on which I debate abortion endlessly, as it's perhaps the most common topic. All I will say is this: Abortion is legal, government-encouraged and tax-funded, socially-accepted, cold-blooded murder.
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Guest, 4 yr 273 days ago
Hi, I'm gonna jump in here. I read some of your guy's comments on this stuff and some of it got my heart pumpin'. I totally agree with what guest is saying, people need to learn to hold the consequences to there choices. Lemme just throw this to some of you that have never been to health class yet. Man + woman= baby. WHOA, suprising, huh? Look if someone has sex with another person, and I don't care what kind of condem or pills were used. When the sperm hits the egg, there's gonna be a baby. People have not learned how to respect that. That's why it's good and to go even further, necessary to wait for marraige to have sex, so the child can be raised in an environment of family.
No on to the abortion issue. Let me use a metaphor, if you are given a seed and you crush it. You did not kill the tree, you just prevented it from living, now those two terms seem very similar to me, but hey, maybe it's just me. OK, now what I want to know from THE WORLD...WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE from keeping something from living and killing it. Think of the potential you are preventing. Here's another lesson for those of you who skipped high school: baby + time = adult. Guess how Albert Einstein got so smart...HE GREW UP...guess how Thomas Edison became so inventive...HE GREW UP!...guess how Donald trump got so sucessful...I think you get the point. We all know, and if we don't you need to get into it, that the Bible is the most reliable source for moral solutions than any other book in the world. If you search through the Bible, you will find that every, EVERY, person born has a person on this earth, even the dictators...even the cruel murderers. If Alexander the Great had never conquered the known world of his time, the Bible would have never gotten translated. Some people consider it a small purpose, but it was a meaningful purpose.
If you're gonna talk about abortion, you're not just talking about doctors, fetuses, and laws; you're talking about life, people, and purpose.
Let me take the subject a little bit further. The Bible says, especially in Psalms, how God knew exactly what David was going to be before he was even born. Before we are born, we already have a purpose laid out for our lives. We already have a fate, a destiny. How is that not life, past, present, or future, that is life: finding a true purpose in our lives. When you kill a baby, or maybe you're just "preventing it's life," you are killing much more than that, you are driving it's purpose away, a piece of history away.
Okay, I can see why people abort their babies because they were raped. And because of this rape this baby is not worth the while. Okay, well, Romans says, "Be not overcome with evil, but overcome evil with good." Don't you see? These babies are worth it, they're human! These children are much bigger than the guilt that you're gonna have just because you made a stupid mistake.
The only way I can see someone aboting a baby is if it's becuase that person wants to take part in a worldwide mass murder movement. That's right, I said worldwide mass murder. More babies have been aborted than the death toll of all of America's wars put together...by a longshot. But babies are more than statistics, they're people. Get over the stupid guilt you have from conceiving the baby and let it come into the world. Ya, it might be hard for that kid to grow up knowing that he was born because of a rape or one wild college night; but that's what life is about, learning from other's and your own mistakes.
Erin  +  79676 Wed, 09 Mar 05 01:41 AM
Do you really think that on could live with oneself knowing that one murdered an innocent human being? I would think that this involves ever deeper emotions than giving the child up for adoption. At least then you would not see blood dripping from your hands (like Lady Macbeth) for the rest of your life. I would point out these as some of the reasions why one should not choose abortion. I am a woman and I would rather die than know that I had slaughtered an innocent babe. What if a girl's family would banish her? Yes, that would be terrible, but why add murder to the sin of fornication? At least then the girl could live with a clear conscience.
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nona the brit  +  80042 Thu, 10 Mar 05 08:49 AM
Like I said earlier, this is very much an issue of 'gut-belief'. For example, Erin thinks having sex itself is a sin, therefore she will naturally believe that abortion is murder and she imagines how she would feel if she had one (Lady Macbeth).

On the other hand, other women without such a viewpoint have abortions and never a moment of regret.

Moving away from the 'is it right or wrong issue' you should not assume all women would react in the same way, your way, after an abortion. I don't think it would bother me but I don't know unless I were in that situation. I certainly know women who just found it a big relief and are not in the slightest bit upset; they do not consider it has any relationship to murder. I also know women who are guilty and confused by what they did.

I think it is impossible to predict reactions to it.

Can I raise a new point - does everyone consider the 'father' equally culpable/sinful/innocent whatever?
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David  +  80069 Thu, 10 Mar 05 10:28 AM
Nona from a Christian standpoint: The male and female body are tabernacles of the Lord. They were God given and ours to treat with respect. Sin in the Christian sense implies doing things which are harmful to oneself and one's neighbour. In the case you mention both parties are responsible for what happens next. If they both agree to having a child aborted both are equally responsible. This is how I and many Christians see it. That does not mean I sit in judgement on the way others act. As I see it one's conscience needs to be informed and one should act accordingly. This in no way means I agree with abortion but I cannot speak for those who go along with it.
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Guest, 4 yr 229 days ago
well whenyou say it'snot the baby's fault that the girl was raped....well it wasn't the girl's fault either.
Guest, 4 yr 215 days ago
I used to be utterly against abortion. Then, at the ripe old age of 13, I was brutally raped. By a blood relative and fell pregnant. I had an abortion. At the time, I WAS only thinking of myself, yes. I couldn't go through with carrying and giving birth to a child conceived of such an horrific act. I was only a child myself. Could I have given it up for adoption? Hmm.. if my family knew, it would've torn mine and their whole world apart, I'm sure at least one member of my family would have ended up in prison doing time for murdering the perpetrator. So how could I carry a pregnancy to full term?

Now, looking back 20 years, I KNOW in my heart I did the right thing. I have a friend who has an adopted son. He suffers from depression and other severe mental health problems, triggered through knowing his birth-mother was a junkie who tried to sell him for drugs. Yes, he's part of a loving, close-knit family, but his blood ties are swallowing him up. I shudder to think, if I HAD carried the pregnancy through, the hell that child would probably go through, knowing he/she was conceived out of incestual rape. I'm a mother now and if my kids are upset, it hurts like hell. Could I have lived through that? ^ I doubt it. Maybe some of you could. I admire your strength. But you never, ever know what you would do until you're faced with it yourself. I pray you never have to know.

Take care
Ja-Mez  +  93574 Tue, 26 Apr 05 11:31 AM
"70. 'My mother was 13 years old when I was born. Why? Because my dad raped a little girl that was in a room asleep. My dad was going out with my mother's mother. There you go. There's some bones for Jake the Snake.'
Beyond the Mat

A heavy moment in a pro wrestling documentary."

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Guest, 4 yr 214 days ago
Why should some one have to have a child if they don't want to? People die every day with a lot more pain then it would if you were just a fetus. The world is also over populated. People are dying every day. Painfully. So why should a person have to have a child, especially if there just a kid still? Going through childbirth can wipe you out and make you lose a lot of your life. And every one is having sex. It might be wrong and unacceptable but it is still going to happen. No matter what men will be able to get away with it. And so what if she has had sex and been pregnant? She wouldn't have to go through a pregnancy which is painful. And what about when the baby eventually has to go through the whole "my parents didn't want me I lived my life not knowing who they were," thing? Even though it is killing a baby its not really a baby that realizes its dying. What about all the eggs that are passed up? I say of course we have the right. We are so spoiled here and we can do a lot more then we should be able to. If some one makes a mistake who are you to tell them they can't have an abortion? We are at war killing a bunch of people we don't know. A lot of innocent lives on both side are being taken. Children are being scarred over there. A lot of people die unfairly. And your mother doesn't have a right to kill you now but what if she never even had sex and had you? Would that be as bad? You still wouldn't be here today. If she did have sex then had an abortion it wouldn't have been any different even if she had "killed" you.
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