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Latest post Mon, Oct 1 2007 5:29 PM by Clive. 3 replies.
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Anonymous  +  425477 Sun, 30 Sep 07 10:08 AM

I once heard that it is not polite to pose "V" with our fingers in England or Greece.

Is that true?

Does anyone know the reason?

Thank you.

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Clive  +  425528 Sun, 30 Sep 07 02:34 PM

Hi,

It's a gesture that has a sexual connotation in England. Greece, I don't know, probably.

And only if you have the back of your hand towards the watcher, I believe.

Clive

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Lil' Ruby Rose  +  425817 Mon, 01 Oct 07 03:23 PM

In England, giving someone the 'v' sign (as Clive says, with the back of the hand towards the watcher) means much the same as showing your middle finger in the US - that is, expressing "f*** off!" or "f*** you!".  It's not sexual.  If you mean it to be less agressive, it's often accompanied by blowing a raspberry.

The common understanding of the origin of the 'v' is that it emerged during the wars with the French in the 15th century.  The English army had archers using long bows, which caused devastation to the French troops.  As an expression of contempt, the English are said to have waved the two fingers you would use to draw back the string of the bow at the French.  I have no idea whether this is historically accurate.

If you turn the 'v' around so your palm faces the watcher, it means 'peace' or 'victory'.

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Clive  +  425863 Mon, 01 Oct 07 05:29 PM

Hi again,

The V sign is certainly aggressive, but I also see it as having a strong sexual aspect. Perhaps this is a discussion that we shouldn't have.Wink [;)]

For some discussion of the origins of the V sign, have a look at these sites, among others.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_etymology This one disagrees with the 'archer' theory. It also notes the disputed idea that the French would cut off the two fingers of captured English archers, so that they could no longer draw their bows. It notes the suggestion by some that 'intact' archers would wave their two fingers in defiance, to show the French that they could still use the English longbows, made of yew, ie Look, you vile Frenchmen, we can still 'pluck yew'.   I really like the degree of imagination that this latter phrase demonstrates.Big Smile [:D]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#Mythic_origins

Best wishes, Clive

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