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IAm  +  277765 Sun, 08 Oct 06 11:33 AM

Hello! Correct my English please. Smile [:)]

I have a book "Practical grammar of English" which says that in English as well as in Russian any address must be stood out with commas (or with a comma if address is located at the beginning/ending of sentence). But, while I regularly browse web-pages, I notice that nobody stands out addresses with commas. There is even classical example from programming "Hello World". Which variant is right: "Hello World" or "Hello, World"? Is it my book who lies or just many people are illiterate? Or, maybe, English provides me use commas as I want? Prompt me please. Smile [:)]

By the way, must I use a comma in sentence "Promt me please" before "please"?

Thanks a lot. Smile [:)]

 
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Yoong Liat  +  277785 Sun, 08 Oct 06 01:04 PM

I've extracted the following sentences. My conclusion is that the comma is optional.

HMD 1062  Hello Dennis.

CAB 594  Hello, Tom.

 

CE5 2561 A voice said, `Oh, hello Bodie.’

 

FR5 2257 They said, `Hello Sharon.'

GWA 586  Hello, Conway,'  said the old man.

H55 35  Hello monster.

 

H9H 3001   Hello, Belinda.

 

H9Y 1995  Hello, love.

 

KD5 1340  Hello Mum!

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Anonymous, 220 days ago
No, commas are NOT optional. Just because someone has not used because they don't know doesn't mean you are free not to use them if you choose not to (of course, you are free to choose not to use them, but that's grammatically incorrect).


If you are addressing someone, depending where you use their names, you put a comma before or after their name, sometimes before AND after their name. Consider the following:


1. John, let's go fishing, it'll be fun.


2. Let's go fishing, it'll be fun, John.


3. Let's go fishing, John, it'll be fun.


So, the rule is:

- if you are starting a sentence addressing someone, you put a comma AFTER their name

- if you are ending a sentence addressing someone, you put a comma BEFORE their name

- if you are addressing someone mid-sentence, you put a comma BEFORE AND AFTER their name


The same goes for hi/hello saluations (they are not exempted because they consiste of only one word; they are still addresses):


1. Hi, John. How are you?

2. John, hi. How are you?

Grammar Geek  +  699442 Mon, 20 Apr 09 01:57 PM
Hello Anon,

All three of your sentences are commas splices. They contain complete sentences, joined incorrectly by a comma.

Anonymous

 

1. John, let's go fishing. It'll be fun.


2. Let's go fishing. It'll be fun, John.


3. Let's go fishing, John. It'll be fun.

 

I think you need to accept that language changes. The requirement to use that comma to set off the person in salutation or be considered "incorrect" is a bit dated now.

 

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