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Anonymous  +  118968 Sun, 17 Jul 05 05:14 AM
when using warm to describe the feeling of the colour of yellow, which is an adjective what is warm? An adjective to describe an adjective??
CalifJim  +  118983 Sun, 17 Jul 05 06:17 AM
"warm" can be considered an adverb in the expression "warm yellow".
I suppose it would be called an adverb of manner.  In what way is it yellow?  In a warm way.  Warm(ly).

(I hope your teacher isn't giving you this type of uselessly baffling puzzle under the guise of teaching you to read, write, and speak English!)

CJ

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Dehbaash  +  118989 Sun, 17 Jul 05 07:05 AM

....this type of uselessly baffling puzzle under the guise of teaching you to read, write, and speak English!

This is the common practice to waste time by native English "teachers"( especially native speakers with no teaching experience) who get paid by the hour. The other method is to pick some words from a pop song and concoct some meanings for them under the guise of "getting the feel" of Western culture!!

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Eimai_Anglos  +  119134 Sun, 17 Jul 05 07:25 PM
In this sense you can consider "yellow" to be a noun. For example:

Two women looking at clothing/wallpaper/paint or similar.

"What do you think of this yellow?"

"I think it's too pale/cold/warm/pink."



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davkett  +  119139 Sun, 17 Jul 05 07:45 PM

I can tell you that artists know what a 'warm' yellow means.  It's not all that subjective, and its not adverbial. It is not 'in what way' is it yellow, rather, it is 'what characteristic of' yellow.  The name of the color, when it has a particular characteristic applied to it, may be in many cases a noun--as Eimai Anglos says. 'It is a dark yellow.'  That is a sickly yellow.'  'Van Gogh is known for his intense yellows'. 

But there is also:  A brassy yellow pigment .  A dusty pink dress. 

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julielai  +  119230 Mon, 18 Jul 05 04:56 AM
 Dehbaash wrote:
This is the common practice to waste time by native English "teachers"( especially native speakers with no teaching experience) who get paid by the hour. The other method is to pick some words from a pop song and concoct some meanings for them under the guise of "getting the feel" of Western culture!!

A couple of my English teachers, who were Chinese, did that too. 

 

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davkett  +  119330 Mon, 18 Jul 05 03:13 PM

I keep thinking about this 'warm yellow' question. 

Experienced forum members have seemed to agree with CJ that this is a 'uselessly baffling puzzle'.  I am curious about the reason, maybe because it has been a long time since I approached writing and speaking English from a conscious memory of grammatical terminology,  I had to look it up to re-learn that adjectives do not have as one of their official functions the modification of other adjectives. 

And yet, it seems to me here, that unnecessarily convoluted thinking is required to demonstrate how 'warm' is not an adjective modifying another adjective, 'yellow'.

Would the problem in 'a brassy yellow pigment' go away if 'brassy yellow' were hyphenated, 'brassy-yellow'?  In 'the dusty pink dress'--if it's not the dress that is dusty, should it be written, 'dusty-pink dress'?

My puzzling over this probably stems from my interests as an artist.  If a definitive anwer is not forthcoming, I will consider my bafflement useful.

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