HSS  +  197256 Thu, 16 Feb 06 12:01 AM Hi. When you place more than one adjective before a noun, you would use "and" and you wouldn't. How would you decide which to follow? Here's an example. Which sentence sounds better? [1] She is a personable, forward-looking, proactive young lady. [2] She is a personable, forward-looking and proactive young lady. Thanks in advance for your help. Hiro/ Sendai, Japan HSS Joined on Wed, Nov 16 2005 Sendai, Japan Regular Member 681 JH7JHH, First Class ham radio operator. N9COW in the US. Nouns

	Goodman  +  197264 Thu, 16 Feb 06 12:27 AM Hi, HSS When you have two things to describe, a simple “AND” will do   When you have more than 3 items to list, use a comma afte reach item and apply an “And” before the last item. Ex: She is warm, friendly, sincere and pretty.             I’ve  invited Mary, John, Paul, Susan and my co-workers to my birthday party.        Another anternative is to use “as well as “       My new job works me to death! I have to take care of the coffee room, reception, mailroom as well as my  job as a book keeper. Goodman Joined on Mon, Nov 7 2005 Senior Member 3,816 The name says it all! Commas

	Clive  +  197266 Thu, 16 Feb 06 12:34 AM Hi Goodman, I'd say My new job works me to death! I have to take care of the coffee room, reception, and mailroom as well as my  job as a book keeper. Best wishes, Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,622 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo

	HSS  +  197285 Thu, 16 Feb 06 01:42 AM Oh-oh, I must have misled you. I know how we normally line up nouns, adverbs, etc., but I was just wondering if there was any difference between "a personable, forward-looking, proactive young lady" and "a personable, forward-looking, and proactive young lady." I somehow keep seeing nouns with more than one adjective before it withtout 'and' in the line of adjectives. Hiro/ Sendai, Japan HSS Verbs, Difference Between, Nouns, Adverbs

	paco2004  +  197306 Thu, 16 Feb 06 02:41 AM Hello HSS I take them as follows:          She is a personable, forward-looking, proactive young lady.          =The proactive young lady is personable as well as forward-looking.          She is a personable, forward-looking and proactive young lady.          =The young lady is personable, forward-looking, and proactive      or =The young lady is not only personable but also (forward-looking and proactive). By the way I find it somehow odd that "personable" is used to describe a young lady. paco paco2004 Joined on Wed, Nov 17 2004 Senior Member 4,095 In Japan today even dogs are learning how to bow-wow in English.

	HSS  +  197505 Thu, 16 Feb 06 01:41 PM Hi, Paco. How are you? Your interpretation is quite interesting. Thanks. Just gotten back home from a long day's work, and so my brain cells are inert at the moment. But I'll certainly give it some thought later on.  Paco2004 wrote: By the way I find it somehow odd that "personable" is used to describe a young lady. I used "personable" to mean "having pleasant and likable personality." Doesn't it go along with "young lady"? More of your enlightenment would be appreciated. Hiro HSS

	paco2004  +  197549 Thu, 16 Feb 06 04:11 PM Hello HSS I'm sorry I was wrong. My E-J Genius dictionary says "personable" is a word used to praise young men but I have now checked it in other dictionaries (OED and Webster) and have found they do not mention such a gender bias in the use. Googlily this word is used like below.       She is personable 649, He is personable 12,100.       A personable young woman 228, A personable young man 875. paco paco2004 Genders

	Goodman  +  197633 Thu, 16 Feb 06 08:58 PM Without so much the interpretation of dictionary, "personable", to me; has no gender bias. A person with a personable personality is said to be someone with warm, friendly and pleasant characteristics.     Goodman Genders