We have partnered with TradePub to bring you free industry magazines and resources - no coupons or credit cards required!

Visit: englishforums.tradepub.com


Share this topic:
This question is Not Answered
Latest post Tue, Mar 3 2009 6:29 PM by Anonymous. 5 replies.
Suggest an answer | | |
Anonymous  +  682397 Tue, 03 Mar 09 03:36 PM

In the following sentence, I believe the adjective "automobile" modifies the series of nouns "roads", "highways" and "river crossings" else the order of the list would be different... I can't seem to find a style guide or citation to back me up because it is such a poor sentence. I need to cite an authority for my criticism. Does anyone have an appropriate citation? Am I totally off base?

 

 "New public automobile roads and highways and river crossings will not be permitted."

Avangi  +  682404 Tue, 03 Mar 09 04:00 PM
Sounds like a typical government regulation to me.  Both "public" and "automobile" independently modify the three "nouns" you mention.  The important thing is that the language is legal and unambiguous,  style be damned!  (:D) Big Smile 
Joined on Mon, Nov 19 2007
Veteran Member 8,172
". . . le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile." - Henri de Regnier
Anonymous, 263 days ago
You are correct about the source but the government doesn't read this sentence the way you have. That's why I'm looking for a citation to an authoritative source.
Clive  +  682417 Tue, 03 Mar 09 04:19 PM
Hi,

In the following sentence, I believe the adjective "automobile" modifies the series of nouns "roads", "highways" and "river crossings" else the order of the list would be different... I can't seem to find a style guide or citation to back me up because it is such a poor sentence. I need to cite an authority for my criticism. Does anyone have an appropriate citation? Am I totally off base?

   "New public automobile roads and highways and river crossings will not be permitted."

I would focus my criticism as follows.

The adjective 'automobile' seems redundant and odd when applied to roads and highways, which by common definition are for automobiles. The same might be argued of the word 'public'.

The first 'and' would normally be replaced by a comma.

A better sentence would be 
 "New roads, highways and river crossings for automobiles will not be permitted."

With regard to your query, I would say that whether an adjective applies to multiple items in a list is to some extent a matter of meaning.
Consider the scope of the adjective in each of these examples.
eg He went shopping. He bought a striped sweater, a car and a house.
eg He is a very rich man. He always buys expensive clothes, houses and cars.

I'm afraid I don't have a citation to offer you.

Best wishes, Clive





Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004
Canada
Veteran Member 29,594
El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo
Avangi  +  682456 Tue, 03 Mar 09 05:54 PM
Anonymous
the government doesn't read this sentence the way you have.
  Out or curiosity, how do they read it??  (:)) Smile

BTW, I think Clive's examples make it clear that you'll have a rough time pinning them down as to exactly what applies when a series of adjectives modify a series of nouns.
Anonymous, 263 days ago

Avangi
Anonymous
the government doesn't read this sentence the way you have.
  Out or curiosity, how do they read it??  (:)) Smile

BTW, I think Clive's examples make it clear that you'll have a rough time pinning them down as to exactly what applies when a series of adjectives modify a series of nouns.

 

They read the sentence to have "automobile" modify only roads. They conclude that the sentence prohibits a foot bridge.  Clive's examples have more relevance to the use of an article "a" than the adjective, i believe.

 

© MediaCet Ltd. 2009, v5.0.3607.32596. All content posted by our users is a contribution to the public domain, this does not include imported usenet posts.*
For web related enquires please contact us on webmaster@mediacet.com, status updates are available at status.mediacet.com.
*Usenet post removal: Use 'X-No-Archive'. You may not have understood that your posts would end up in the public domain. Please send proof of the poster's email, we will remove immediately.