Do AMericans pronounce " forty" as fordi or forti?

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Belly  #533242  Fri, 27 Jun 08 09:30 AM
Do AMericans pronounce " forty" as fordi or forti?

Mr= Mider or mister?

  
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Vorpar  #533246  Fri, 27 Jun 08 09:47 AM
Usually "fordi"

Mr is "Mister"
  
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Grammar Geek  #533326  Fri, 27 Jun 08 02:28 PM

The T will often become a D after an R or between vowels, which are voiced, although not if it comes at the end of the word.

Congradulations. Petals (on flowers) will sound like pedals (on a bicycle).

Mister - the T comes after an unvoiced S. (You also left out the S in your suggested pronunciation.)

 

  
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Barbara, who answers in American English.
Yankee  #533448  Fri, 27 Jun 08 07:11 PM
I don't know, Barb.  I have trouble accepting the idea that the T in congratulations is pronounced like a D.  To me the TU part of that word ends up sounding more like the word 'chew'. Stick out tongue
  
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CalifJim  #533517  Fri, 27 Jun 08 09:24 PM
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sounding more like the word 'chew'.
I do that one with the CH sound, so what you say sounds reasonable.

Also, I do:

twenny, thirdy, fordy, fifty, sixty, sevendy, aidy, ninedy 

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Kooyeen  #533717  Sat, 28 Jun 08 01:24 PM
There's no real D in "congratulations", but I'm sure GG meant to say she pronounces it as "congra-jew-lations", with JEW instead of CHEW.
And Americans say FORDY, yes. Not "misder".
  
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Belly  #533761  Sat, 28 Jun 08 03:24 PM
But American Accent Course (Ann Cook) says: The soft T is pronounced like a d, so why mister here?
Is the same true with doctor?
  
Kooyeen  #533775  Sat, 28 Jun 08 04:00 PM
Read better what Ann Cook said. I think I remember reading she says "T is D in the middle of a staircase", since she always mentions "staircases" for intonation patterns.
Mister and Doctor don't have a tapped T (=a "D" sound).
  
Belly  #533968  Sun, 29 Jun 08 02:53 AM
But I believe mister and doctor both stand at the middle of the staircase just as betty, better etc. ?
  
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