Do AMericans pronounce " forty" as fordi or forti?

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	Belly  #533242  Fri, 27 Jun 08 09:30 AM Do AMericans pronounce " forty" as fordi or forti? Mr= Mider or mister?    Belly Joined on Mon, Feb 19 2007 Regular Member (591)

	Vorpar  #533246  Fri, 27 Jun 08 09:47 AM Usually "fordi" Mr is "Mister"    Vorpar Joined on Tue, Sep 20 2005 Santa Barbara, CA Regular Member (808)

	Grammar Geek  #533326  Fri, 27 Jun 08 02:28 PM The T will often become a D after an R or between vowels, which are voiced, although not if it comes at the end of the word. Congradulations. Petals (on flowers) will sound like pedals (on a bicycle). Mister - the T comes after an unvoiced S. (You also left out the S in your suggested pronunciation.)      Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Pennsylvania, USA Veteran Member (15,541) Barbara, who answers in American English.
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	Yankee  #533448  Fri, 27 Jun 08 07:11 PM I don't know, Barb.  I have trouble accepting the idea that the T in congratulations is pronounced like a D.  To me the TU part of that word ends up sounding more like the word 'chew'.    Yankee Joined on Sat, Apr 15 2006 Connecticut, USA Senior Member (4,156) Amy "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." - Mark Twain

	CalifJim  #533517  Fri, 27 Jun 08 09:24 PM Yankee sounding more like the word 'chew'. I do that one with the CH sound, so what you say sounds reasonable. Also, I do: twenny, thirdy, fordy, fifty, sixty, sevendy, aidy, ninedy  CJ     CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member (16,927) "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche

	Kooyeen  #533717  Sat, 28 Jun 08 01:24 PM There's no real D in "congratulations", but I'm sure GG meant to say she pronounces it as "congra-jew-lations", with JEW instead of CHEW. And Americans say FORDY, yes. Not "misder".    Kooyeen Joined on Thu, Dec 22 2005 Italy Senior Member (3,962) If you don't have a sense of humor already, it's about time you buy one.

	Belly  #533761  Sat, 28 Jun 08 03:24 PM But American Accent Course (Ann Cook) says: The soft T is pronounced like a d, so why mister here? Is the same true with doctor?    Belly
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	Kooyeen  #533775  Sat, 28 Jun 08 04:00 PM Read better what Ann Cook said. I think I remember reading she says "T is D in the middle of a staircase", since she always mentions "staircases" for intonation patterns. Mister and Doctor don't have a tapped T (=a "D" sound).    Kooyeen
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	Belly  #533968  Sun, 29 Jun 08 02:53 AM But I believe mister and doctor both stand at the middle of the staircase just as betty, better etc. ?    Belly