here is my bs. i am not directly replying to any previous posts, simply to the topic. in fact i did not read any posts. sorry if i am repetitive. these are my beliefs, these are not a representation of any political wing. i hope you find it enlightenting.

amarchy is an interesting subject. first of all it is a concept. that is all it is, a concept. we as a people cannot live without a form of government. we need the government to survive, not because of our own incompacity, but instead the greed and evil in our society.in an anarchist world, clans would be formed for protection to fight against pirate-like clans, meciouslessly killing, raping nad stealing. these people are around us every day, and despite all the wasted words about world peace and such, there is an animal if you will within us all. at our core we are animals, we kill living things to survive, and what it boils down to is that we need a government to keep honest people honest. although these problems exist, in their absence anarchy would be an excellent system, but unfortuenetly every system and philosophy ruled to its fullest extent fails. and this is why our government is failing. i have talked to many many people about the nov.2004 election (USA) and it seems that the country is in a divided concensious. we all agree that we are voting for the better of the two evils, but half of us see it slightly diffrently than the other half. our government has been run by career polititions, motivated by greed and power. this is because our polititions are so idealized by the media and it is such a well paid position. it really is a win win situation for these money hungary jackasses. they get to be prestigious, recognised, and respected and honored, and all the while they collect large sums of money from lobbyists. these lobbyists throw ridiciouls amounts of money to a canidate if he will vote for their cause. this is so totally wrong. canidates should vote for the people. this governemnt is afterall a government by and for the people. but our government is not by the people, it is "by" the men who have never worked hard a day in their lives, yet they are taxing us limitlessly when we struggle to survive, and this is hardly for the people. kerry is a perfect exaple of a man controlled by lobiests. he votes for things and then votes against them, or visa versa. he says anything that will get him money,but it seems that it was not enough (the money issue in politics i will discuss later) Bush is another perfect example, he is a very wealth man, due to his ancestors fortune and hard work, hardly a man who knows what it is like to be "the people". the government is just corrupt, plain and simple, and it will collapse. the reason it will is because it takes so much money to get to a place to change things. i would love to be able to change the system and get it to where it should be, but i am not alone. there are many people who desire this but do not have the financial means to do so. it takes millions of dollares to run for president or any other position, and should you lose you are in the hole. many people have solved this problem with lobbiests, but they fail to draw the line and end up being corrupt.

so far i have bashed anarchy and democracy, pointing out only a few of the many many errors in both systems. but it is easy to point out problems and provide no solutions. what needs to happen is, the government needs to be completely reformed, starting in each county and city moving up through every state and eventualy to the federal level. we need to evaluate every cost and every effect of every law. we need to evaluate every career politition and fire the ones who are corrupt. basically what it boils down to is, the government needs to lighten up, and take its ugly head out of its ass and the business of the public. it needs to stop being so emotionally driven, and let people do what they want with their lives. let every one deal with the cards they are dealt (kind of an existential "thrown" idea if you are familiar with sarte/camus/etc) we need to stop pampering the poor, stop rewarding the rich, stop killing the middle class, stop restricting business, stop killing the enviorment, get out of other countrys and deal with our own problems. i could go on for hours but it is pointless anyway, not enough people have the intilectual ability to comprehend anything figuritively. the world goes to college for financial reasons instead of intelectuall reasons. common sense is no longer very common unfortunetly.

how is it not a representative democracy? the majority wins. and besides anarchy is defined as the state where there is a lack of a government. humans have a tendency to follow rules. break them. etc. we need a structure. for example, do you think we can safely go through an road intersection without traffic lights? sure. but it will be chaotic. similarly, without a backbone to our society, our whole society will crumble to pieces.

 i have a new view on goverments tyhst combines anachrys main ideas and adds the better points of diffrent goverment types.  what every goerment there isshould be willing to change to help the people it helps, i said helps not rules a goverment should never rule. if u want to hear more send me and email to <removed mod>

Although there is a lot of evil in the world, I like to think that if you watch closely, you will see that the good outweighs the evil. It is for this reason that I am for anarchism.

Your right and i understand completey but were not up to change and there really is no way to get it through peoples thick skulls. We care to much about power and mon ey and not enogh about the people who actullay need our help I hate when people sya that they didn't that person to win when in reallity most of them didn't vote you can't change it if you don't try or vote. people try and blame other people for whats happening to them but they can change if the want to. In this case money is power and to succed in the world you need power but you can't get power without money.

In my case i can't vote becuase im only 14 but see the thing is i don't see why not becuase i think the only way people should be able to vote is if they know whats going on or the issues. You don't want people who you don't like running your country but we can't not have a government becuase the world would fall to pieces becuase of all the bad people out there and not enough good people who really care. People wouldn't be able to be in peace and work things out for themselves becuase they both think they are right. Anarchy doesnt mean mass chaos and destruction it just means absance of government which includes rules and police officers people like that. Anarchy would be the perfect place if everyone could aggree and be nice but its not a perfect world so anarchy7 wouldn't work. The only way ddictatorship would work is if we had someone looking for peace and to keep the peace and not get to hung up in power. How i see it is that democracy is the same thing as dictatorship except in democracy the people get to vote but the same qulitys are there tghe people get to hung up in power and money instead of the issues they act fake just to get there peoples to like them.

I have heard theories about how America will fall into Anarchy and will turn into a third-world-country due to the second Great Depression which will happen in around three decades. Why can't our countries lazy fat couch potatos learn to ride a bike or something? Personally Im a Anarchist.

- The non-Conformist