ihavenoname  +  82090 Fri, 18 Mar 05 09:59 AM This is what linguists call hypercorrection. Because people know it's grammatically wrong to say, "John and me went to the store", they apply the same reasoning to "from John and me". I think this particular usage, "between you and I", is quite common in BrE, possibly an artifact from rhyming poetry and idiom. But it hasn't been accepted by the mainstream yet, and still doesn't have the same status as previously unacceptable phrases such as "impacted" or "due to" in formal writing. Currently, the correct usage is "between you and me" and "from John and me". It's possible that "Between you and I" might be universally acceptable in a few years, but right now most sources would reject it. ihavenoname Joined on Mon, Dec 27 2004 New Member 08 Idioms

	khoff  +  82228 Fri, 18 Mar 05 10:10 PM It would be better to say "I bought myself an ice cream, beacuse I decided to treat myself." khoff Joined on Sun, Mar 6 2005 Senior Member 3,264 Native speaker of American English (but not a grammar expert)

	MrPedantic  +  82253 Sat, 19 Mar 05 12:36 AM Another way of demonstrating that 'from John and I' is wrong is to look at the other pronoun combinations: 1. ???From John and we 2. ???From they and we 3. ???From he and she Which should be: 1a. From John and us 2a. From them and us 3a. From him and her It's true that you come across this mistake all the time. But you come across spelling mistakes all the time too. MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 12,592 ...opella forensis / adducit febris... Nouns, Pronouns, Spelling

	MrPedantic  +  119403 Mon, 18 Jul 05 11:22 PM  Saeed Ghasemi wrote: I agree with first one (say hello to john from rachel and I) Hello Saeed, welcome to English Forums! You often hear native speakers use 'I' instead of 'me', as in your example; but the correct version would be: 'Say hello to John from Rachel and me.' MrP   MrPedantic

	yulysess  +  119417 Tue, 19 Jul 05 12:39 AM  Saeed Ghasemi wrote: I agree with first one (say hello to john from rachel and I)   a detailed comment on both usages : http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/cases.htm   yulysess Joined on Fri, Jun 3 2005 Full Member 173 Practise what you preach Grammar

	MrPedantic  +  125522 Wed, 10 Aug 05 07:38 AM Hello Anon In this sentence – 1. Say hello to John from Rachel and I. – 'Rachel and I' are not subjects. They are objects of the preposition 'from'. You can test this by inserting 'from' in front of each of them: 2. ?Say hello to John from Rachel and from I. This sentence is wrong, so 'I' must be wrong. Instead, we must say: 3. Say hello to John from Rachel and from me. This reduces to: 4. Say hello to John from Rachel and me. MrP MrPedantic Prepositions