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Latest post Wed, Dec 14 2005 8:43 AM by CalifJim. 8 replies.
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hanuman_2000  +  169347 Tue, 13 Dec 05 05:13 AM

Hello,

1. Animals have a tail.

2. Animals have tails.

Which one is correct?

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CalifJim  +  169370 Tue, 13 Dec 05 06:42 AM
The second is the usual way to say it.
CJ

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Clive  +  169371 Tue, 13 Dec 05 06:42 AM

Hi,

1. Animals have a tail.

2. Animals have tails.

You can say it either way. #1 makes it clearer that each animal has only one tail.

Best wishes, Clive

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rishonly  +  169375 Tue, 13 Dec 05 06:50 AM
Hmmm!. Experts have different opinions. I am curious to see the right form of the sentence.
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CalifJim  +  169384 Tue, 13 Dec 05 07:12 AM
Hmmm.  I thought #1 made it clearer that all animals, as a unit, have one tail!  At the very least, it makes it less clear that the number of tails is more than one!

My brothers have a checking account.  I have three brothers.  How many checking accounts am I talking about?  (My answer:  It's unclear.  One, I think.)  How many might I be talking about?  (My answer:  I might be talking about one or three.)

My (three) brothers have checking accounts.  How many accounts am I talking about? (My answer:  Three, most likely.)  How many might I be talking about?  (My answer: Three.  Possibly more.  Possibly fewer.  But most likely three.  Certainly not one.)

Consider also:  The dogs are wagging their tail.  The students are reading their book.

What you do you say?  Wink [;)]

Jim


Kuljc03  +  169418 Tue, 13 Dec 05 09:39 AM

well, there's no clear answer. everyone has differnt views, and the sentences are differnt by situations. so, what i say is that to avoid any confusion, just put "each" or "every"

Just a thought.... how do you guys see my opinion?hehe-

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rishonly  +  169551 Tue, 13 Dec 05 08:22 PM

Hi CalifJim,

Thanks. Per your explanations, the second choice fits with the context. If I want to convey the meaning, without using 'each'/'every' at the beginning of the sentence, that each brother has only one checking account, Shall I modify the original version as below?

My brothers have one checking account each.

Clive  +  169586 Tue, 13 Dec 05 10:41 PM

Hi again,

1. Animals have a tail.

2. Animals have tails.

I'd like to make a few more comments on this. 

I completely agree with CJ's points. The ambiguities that are built into these few words, because of the nature of the English grammar involved, are extensive. I just didn't choose to focus on those. Instead, I wanted to consider the way we communicate about this kind of thing in everyday English.

I think that in many conversations, these ambiguities will have little importance and will pass undiscussed. In many other cases, they will be of considerable importance and clarification will be required. This clarification may consist either of a more careful choice of wording initially or of subsequent questions and explanations.

When we speak of something, both speaker and listener often bring some prior knowledge to the communication. For example, we all know that animals, at least most,  have tails and that many animals do not share one tail. Thus, neither of the above sentences will cause serious miscommunication in these areas. Similarly, I would argue that many people, although not necessarily everyone, will enter the conversation with an awareness that most people who have a chequing account will have no more that one per person. Again, the likelihood of miscommunication is reduced.

However, let's consider a topic where people are less likely to have prior knowledge in common. In N. America, credit cards are widespread and many people have more than one per person. Let's assume that I want to say that most Canadians have one card, not zero and not more than one. I can say this in a number of ways, some of which are more precise and some less precise. Two common sentences I might use in everyday English are as follows.

1. Most Canadians have a credit card.

2. Most Canadians have credit cards

In my original reply, I didn't intend to suggest that there were not other more precise and less ambiguous ways to say this. The original point I was trying to make, and that I would still maintain, is that of these two particular sentences, #1 makes my intended meaning more clearly than does #2.

Best wishes, Clive

 

CalifJim  +  169740 Wed, 14 Dec 05 08:43 AM
Krish,

My brothers have one checking account each.


Yes.  That is one possibility.
However, I prefer,

My brothers each have a checking account.


Jim

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