Anonymous  +  187869 Tue, 24 Jan 06 09:53 AM Can you tell me what it means? (refuge, shelter?) Thanks Anonymous

	Clive  +  188011 Tue, 24 Jan 06 02:28 PM Hi, It seems to be an intentionally or unintentionally mixed up version of a common saying. Think of this: if you want to crack open a nut, put it on a hard place and then hit it with a rock. Now, the saying is 'He's between a rock and a hard place'. It means 'He's in a very difficult situation'. Best wishes, Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,298 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo

	Danyoo  +  188161 Tue, 24 Jan 06 06:46 PM Just want to share this piece of info I found at http://www.word-detective.com/back-h2.html "Between a rock and a hard place" is a modern, non-literary variation on the much older "Between Scylla and Charybdis." Homer, in "The Odyssey" (written about 850 B.C.), describes a perilously narrow sea passage his hero must navigate between Scylla, a terrifying monster, and Charybdis, a massive whirlpool. From Homer's time up until fairly recently, "Between Scylla and Charybdis" was a common metaphor for a perilous or difficult situation. With classical studies somewhat in eclipse these days (putting it mildly), the less demanding "Between a rock and a hard place" is far more commonly heard. Danyoo Joined on Fri, Nov 11 2005 Chicago, USA Regular Member 558 To err is human, to forgive divine. 잘못을 저지르는 것은 인간이지만 용서할수있는 것은 하늘과 같은것. Metaphors

	Clive  +  188271 Tue, 24 Jan 06 10:01 PM Hi, This just seems like a variation on the standard wording, that the writer finds amusing or meaningful. I don't undrstand it myself, but I didn't write it and I don't know their relationship. Clive Clive

	MrPedantic  +  188375 Tue, 24 Jan 06 11:02 PM  Anonymous wrote: Thanks Danyoo, I have a lot of resaerch to do now. p.s. Actually the writer said: He was my rock on the hard place. Perhaps the writer was in a difficult situation ("a hard place"), and the other person offered stability of some kind ("he was my rock"). (But it sounds as if it ought to read "he was my rock in the hard place".) MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 13,616 ...opella forensis / adducit febris...