Did not buy anything vs. bought nothing

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Palinkasocsi  #572795  Fri, 03 Oct 08 03:04 PM
Dear all,

I have read in a linguistic paper: 'A speaker who uses 1. is more certain of his negation than the speaker who uses 2.:

1. I bought nothing.
2. I did not buy anything.'

Do you natives agree? Could you elaborate on this? I am not sure I get the point.

Thanks a lot.

P.
  
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Avangi  #572818  Fri, 03 Oct 08 04:34 PM
I agree, although the first usage is uncommon in my experience.

If you were ticked off about the way you had been treated, you might use it to convey your anger, emphasizing that you did not do business with these people.

When using the second expression, your shopping experience may have been pleasant, but the store was unable to furnish your size in the style you had in mind.

In a parallel situation, suppose you were being tortured to give up secret information.  "I gave them nothing!" would be more emphatic than, "I didn't give them anything."

In solving a difficult problem, "I'm getting nowhere with this" is more "negative" than "I'm not getting anywhere with this."
  
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CalifJim  #572870  Fri, 03 Oct 08 08:23 PM
Perhaps not exactly more certain, but somewhat more emphatic.

There is also a tendency to use 1 for abstract ideas (I have no idea what to do) and 2 for concrete objects (I don't have any stamps). 

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Palinkasocsi  #573050  Sat, 04 Oct 08 09:32 AM
Thanks Avangi and CalifJim!

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Palinkasocsi  #573082  Sat, 04 Oct 08 12:14 PM
Dear Avangi,

Could you give me a concrete example to illustrate your point:

"If you were ticked off about the way you had been treated ... "?

How can you be mistreated by say a salesman so that you could get ticked off?

Also, what do you mean by:

"the store was unable to furnish your size in the style you had in mind"?

Could you give a paraphrase?


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Avangi  #573185  Sat, 04 Oct 08 08:47 PM
You should go shopping in Los Angeles  -   The San Fernando Valley, not Beverly Hills!  There are some rude salespeople.  They might rush you, or try to stampede you into making a decision, getting shoes that hurt your feet, making you feel cheap, not listening to you, giving you a disgusted look, talking down to you, refusing to help you find merchandise, pressuring you to buy something you don't want, etc.

These are exactly the slacks I'm looking for, but do you have them in a 32-inch waist?
  
Palinkasocsi  #573689  Mon, 06 Oct 08 07:05 AM
Thanks, Avangi!

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