Mateja  +  373733 Fri, 01 Jun 07 08:46 PM The ideas were gone down at the meeting. She was gone down the stairs. The company was gone under because they got into too much debt. The tree was gone under by many people, because of the heat. Her Spanish was picken up while she was travelling Latin America. The flowers were picken up by a girl. Thank you Mateja Joined on Fri, Feb 2 2007 New Member 46

	Goodman  +  373738 Fri, 01 Jun 07 09:04 PM  Mateja wrote: The ideas were gone down at the meeting. She was gone down the stairs. The company was gone under because they got into too much debt. The tree was gone under by many people, because of the heat. Her Spanish was picken up while she was travelling Latin America. The flowers were picken up by a girl. Thank you Hi, No, these sentences were wrong grammatically and structurally. The ideas were gone down at the meeting.  Do you mean " the ideas were shot down / rejected"? She was gone down the stairs.   She went downstairs, or she has gone downstairs. The company was  has gone under because it had they got into too much debt. The tree was gone under by many people, because of the heat. Becasue of the heat, many people have gone under the tree for shades Her Spanish was picken up while she was travelling Latin America. She had picked up Spanish while she was travelling Latin America. The flowers were picken up by a girl.  The flowers were picked up by a girl. (passive)   Goodman Joined on Mon, Nov 7 2005 Senior Member 3,816 The name says it all!

	Mateja  +  373742 Fri, 01 Jun 07 09:32 PM I am sorry for sending the thread twice, it was by mistake. The examples ˝The stadium was arrived at.˝ indicates the wrong use of the passive, because you can only say that you arrived at stadium, but you cannot say that stadium was arrived at. But you can say ˝The expected result was arrived at.˝, because the meaning is idiomatic. And I need now examples of other prepositional verbs which I would be able to use in the same way. I wanted to do this with the verb: go down The ideas were gone down at the meeting.(correct)-meaning rejected She was gone down the stairs.(wrong) And now I'm wondering  whether I provided good examples or not, and if not I would like you to help me with some. Thank you Mateja Verbs, Prepositional Verbs

	Yankee  +  373754 Fri, 01 Jun 07 09:57 PM Hi Mateja The sentence "The ideas were gone down at the meeting." doesn't make any sense to me. I think that is also what Goodman was telling you when he suggested using "shot down" instead.  What exactly happened with the ideas at the meeting?  You could say this, for example: The ideas were gone over at the meeting.  (go over = review/discuss) Yankee Joined on Sat, Apr 15 2006 Connecticut, USA Veteran Member 6,502 Amy "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." - Mark Twain

	Yankee  +  373756 Fri, 01 Jun 07 10:07 PM  Mateja wrote: ok, I see that nobody  knows the answer...thank you anyway I disagree with that.   You have already been given information about what would be correct and incorrect, and that was the question you originally posted. Now that I've seen your other thread, I see that you have also been asked three times about what exactly you are trying to say with "were gone down". Yankee

	nona the brit  +  373759 Fri, 01 Jun 07 10:13 PM Are you trying to create passive sentences with 'gone down'? nona the brit Joined on Wed, Sep 22 2004 England Veteran Member 11,713 The name says it all.

	Mateja  +  373763 Fri, 01 Jun 07 10:19 PM Thank you Yunkee....your answer is really what I have been looking for. ....Can you just tell me if I am right about the following sentences: active: My last appointment held me up................passive: I was held up by my last appointment active: She held her hand up..........passive: Her hand was held up.   Thanks Mateja