Why aren't there more Western movies like ''The Good, the Bad...

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Jackson6612  #364095  Sun, 13 May 07 07:49 AM
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"...Morricone..." not "...Moricone..."

Quick quiz – name that character:

"Tum Tum Tum Tumty Tum Tumty Tum."   Music [8]

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Dear MrP,

Thank you very much for correcting me. This kind of thing really helps me to improve my English a little faster.

I couldn't name that character. Please you tell me.

Kind regards, Jackson

  
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Stannum  #364097  Sun, 13 May 07 07:49 AM

G'day jackson,

I think that you may be approaching this from the wrong angle.

The Clint Eastwood Cool is everywhere.

Have a look at John Travolta in Pulp Fiction or Get Shorty.

All of the CSI spawn is suffused with super cool flint eyed avengers.  David Caruso has carved a career with a squint.

See ya

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Jackson6612  #364165  Sun, 13 May 07 11:41 AM
 Stannum wrote:

G'day jackson,

I think that you may be approaching this from the wrong angle.

The Clint Eastwood Cool is everywhere.

Have a look at John Travolta in Pulp Fiction or Get Shorty.

All of the CSI spawn is suffused with super cool flint eyed avengers.  David Caruso has carved a career with a squint.

See ya

Stannum

Hi Stannum,

John Travolta is a good actor but not that good as Clint Eastwood. John Travolta cannot act like Clint Eastwood. Clint Eastwood's dialogue delivery is adorable. Besides that John Travolta does not do any action by riding horse.

Stannum, I must say something here. Your writing style is superb. And you do make me use a dictionary whenever I read your posting. Smile [:)]

I could not understand the following sentences: All of the CSI spawn is suffused with super cool flint eyed avengers.  David Caruso has carved a career with a squint.

Please explain to me the above sentences. Is David Caruso a squint?

Take care.

Best wishes, Jackson

  
MrPedantic  #364364  Sun, 13 May 07 05:58 PM
 Jackson6612 wrote:

I couldn't name that character. Please you tell me.

"Cheyenne": try clip #3 on this page:

http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=78635473629

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Stannum  #364424  Sun, 13 May 07 08:23 PM
 Jackson6612 wrote:
Hi Stannum,
G'day Jackson

 Jackson6612 wrote:
John Travolta is a good actor but not that good as Clint Eastwood. John Travolta cannot act like Clint Eastwood. Clint Eastwood's dialogue delivery is adorable.

This is highly debatable.  It can be argued that Travolta has played a wide range of characters whereas Eastwood played Eastwood with very little deviation from the flint eyed avenger with one fist of steel and the other of bone.

 Jackson6612 wrote:
Besides that John Travolta does not do any action by riding horse.
Now I may understand some of your point.

You may be wondering about the demise of The Western as a popular art form.  You are right.  The cycle has passed and now The Western has been replaced by police and crime shows which follow the plot line of The Western pretty faithfully.  If you look at an old episode of The Lone Ranger you will see the template for the modern one hour cop show with the renegade cop hiding behind his mask of indifference or anger or drunkenness or broken relationships or phobias but this maverick cop always has one assistant or colleague who understands them.  Think of The X Files or Medium.

 Jackson6612 wrote:
Stannum, I must say something here. Your writing style is superb. And you do make me use a dictionary whenever I read your posting. Smile [:)]
Thank you.  Your questions about my answers return the compliment.

Jackson, I feel compelled to take this opportunity to clear the air a little with those in authority and I thank you for giving me this space.

I have been writing solely in English for about 47 years during which time I have widely and eclectically read anything I could get my hands on.  I lived two highly intense lives as a soldier and a cop which has left me with view of the world that is less than average and more than beige.

In English only forums I try to be lucid and precise but when discussing art with intelligence such as yours I shun such strictures.

Everybody who does not understand my word patterns is invited to ignore such posts.

I try to craft a small piece of art with each response.  What is the point of reciting the words of a dead white male.  I have my own words and my own writing style that is comprehensible to anyone with the wit to be interested in something like me and I am not interested in communicating with those of less with than that.  This is a vast forum and there are writers of varying register covering the whole gamut of range from The Queen's veddy veddy proper to a Surfer's Slang. 

 Jackson6612 wrote:
I could not understand the following sentences:
May I congratulate your bravery and honour in making such a statement.

Far too often my writing is passed off as gibberish simply because the reader does not grasp my intention at first blush (at first glance, the first youthful impression).  Thank you for understanding that there is something in my words rather than sending me a snippy little PM to pierce my soul.

 Jackson6612 wrote:
All of the CSI spawn is suffused with super cool flint eyed avengers. 

Crime Scene Investigation (CSI) is the modern day Western.  It involves specialist police and agents who investigate crime after some horrific tragedy.  Cheap writers choose highly emotive subjects to add gravitas to their shallow artistic talents.

Spawn is a reference to the vast number of spin off shows that have been spawned like frogs spawning vast numbers of tadpoles and then leaving them mindlessely to their own devices.  Spawn has a derrogatory air about as in, 'Satan's Spawn!'.  Spawn is seldom a compliment.

The Collins dictionary;

suffuse vb (tr usually passive) to spread or flood through or over (something):  the evening sky was suffused with red.  [C16:  from Latin suffusus overspread with]

Super cool is the epitome of style.  Eastwood and Newman and McQueen embody super cool.

Flint eyed is the hard stare that makes the eyes look so hard.  It is also called The Thousand Yard Stare when someone like Eastwood just stares straight through you.

Avengers are the characters who seek vengence for whatever reason.  An eye for an eye sort of blokes.

 Jackson6612 wrote:
David Caruso has carved a career with a squint.
David Caruso is a contemporary actor playing in CSI Miami who has a very limited acting range but is cute and his most adventurous acting foray is to squint a lot.  He squints to look tough.  He squints to look angry.  He squints to look happy.  He squints to look to look sad.  He squints when he is shot.  He squints when he gets a back rub.  He squints when he eats a sandwitch.

 Jackson6612 wrote:
Please explain to me the above sentences. Is David Caruso a squint?
Have a squiz (look) above.

 Jackson6612 wrote:
Take care.

Best wishes, Jackson

Thanks mate,

Same to you.

Stannum

  
Jackson6612  #365002  Tue, 15 May 07 01:22 AM

Stannum wrote:

Jackson, I feel compelled to take this opportunity to clear the air a little with those in authority and I thank you for giving me this space.

I have been writing solely in English for about 47 years during which time I have widely and eclectically read anything I could get my hands on.  I lived two highly intense lives as a soldier and a cop which has left me with view of the world that is less than average and more than beige.

In English only forums I try to be lucid and precise but when discussing art with intelligence such as yours I shun such strictures.

Everybody who does not understand my word patterns is invited to ignore such posts.

I try to craft a small piece of art with each response.  What is the point of reciting the words of a dead white male.  I have my own words and my own writing style that is comprehensible to anyone with the wit to be interested in something like me and I am not interested in communicating with those of less with than that.  This is a vast forum and there are writers of varying register covering the whole gamut of range from The Queen's veddy veddy proper to a Surfer's Slang.

Hi Stannum,

I do have some questions about your last post. But I would ask them later.

Sometimes one's words can tell us a lot about him. Your words tell me that somewhere inside you there is a poet. You have a poetic style of writing. That's a great thing. I'm not sugar coating my comments. If I don't like something, I do not comment on it. You view things through art. That's a hard thing. Not everyone has wit to appreciate or understand artistic view.

Yes, you have your own words. That's the reason in my prior posting I said that every time I read your post you make me use a dictionary. If someone is not able to understand your words, then he can ask you for further help. He can also ignore your post because he is at liberty to do so. As far as I am concerned, I would not call such a person a true learner who ignore someone's words. We should appreciate every little bit of help which we receive from others. Every person has a right to write in his own style. You have your own unique style. You first view your words through art, and then arrange them to form an artistic sentence. Well, this is not an easy thing to do.

Unique things are always hard to comprehend. Only a true man dares to face them when he comes across them. That said, you are also a good person with lots of brains. I wish you good health and happiness. Take care.

Kind regards, Jackson

  
Jackson6612  #365007  Tue, 15 May 07 01:38 AM
 MrPedantic wrote:
 Jackson6612 wrote:

I couldn't name that character. Please you tell me.

"Cheyenne": try clip #3 on this page:

http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=78635473629

MrP

Dear MrP,

I don't know why I wasn't able to answer that quiz. I have complete soundtrack of Once Upon a Time in the West. Anyway, thank you for letting me know. Take care.

Kind regards, Jackson

  
Jackson6612  #365294  Tue, 15 May 07 05:12 PM

The title was:

Why aren't there more Western movies like ''The Good, the Bad and the Ugly'' and ''A Fistful of Dollars''?

Now I think the title should have been:

Why aren't there more movies of Western genre like ''The Good, the Bad and the Ugly'' and ''A Fistful of Dollars''?

What do you think?

  
Grammar Geek  #365342  Tue, 15 May 07 05:56 PM

I don't really see much of a difference between Western movies and movies of Western genre. You could even have said "Why aren't there any more Westerns..."

Western is used all by itself.

  
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