Liveinjapan  +  544243 Mon, 21 Jul 08 04:41 AM A Google search for "ABC" results in ten times more hits than a Google search for "XYZ" does. A Google search for "ABC" results in ten times as many hits as a Google search for XYZ does. On Google search, "ABC" is found ten times more than "XYZ" is. On Google search, "ABC" has ten times as many hits as "XYZ" has.   Arey they all correct? Thanks. Liveinjapan Joined on Sun, Feb 4 2007 Osaka, Japan Senior Member 2,280 Please feel free to correct any words I wrote.LiJ

	RayH  +  544246 Mon, 21 Jul 08 04:44 AM The first two are OK. I wouldn't use the second two. RayH Joined on Sat, Mar 22 2008 Contributing Member 1,555 Native speaker of U. S. English. Not a grammar expert.

	New2grammar  +  544251 Mon, 21 Jul 08 04:53 AM Is there redundancy? For example, A Google search for "ABC" results in ten times as many hits as a Google search for XYZ does. New2grammar Joined on Tue, Nov 21 2006 Veteran Member 7,676 Who wants to go sailing around the world with me?

	RayH  +  544272 Mon, 21 Jul 08 06:04 AM New2grammar “Is there redundancy? For example, A Google search for "ABC" results in ten times as many hits as a Google search for XYZ does. ” Not redundancy--repetition for emphasis and clarity. It's hard to come up with good examples on the spur of the moment; however, here is a good example I found on the site linked below. Here's a short example of structural repetition from the play Getting Married, by George Bernard Shaw: There are couples who dislike one another furiously for several hours at a time; there are couples who dislike one another permanently; and there are couples who never dislike one another; but these last are people who are incapable of disliking anybody. (emphasis added) http://grammar.about.com/od/developingparagraphs/a/cohrepetition.htm http://grammar.about.com/od/rhetoricstyle/a/effectrepet.htm Here are a couple of examples of redundancy: An English teacher appears. He appears out of nowhere. He drops a few sentences into your laptop. The sentences are simple. http://grammar.about.com/b/2008/02/13/building-and-combining-sentences.htm Many uneducated citizens who have never attended school continue to vote for better schools. (emphasis added) Well, I hope this helps because I've about reached the limit of my ability to explain this stuff. RayH

	RayH  +  544273 Mon, 21 Jul 08 06:06 AM Yoong Liat “ I would say that 'does' is optional and the sentence sounds better without the word. ” Quite right, I noticed that on re-reading the post. RayH

	Peaceblinkfriend  +  544285 Mon, 21 Jul 08 06:42 AM What about this? Do you think this is better or worse? A Google search for "ABC" results in ten times as many hits as that of "XYZ". Looking forward to reading your replies. PBF Peaceblinkfriend Joined on Wed, May 9 2007 Senior Member 2,130 Success - it is not the position where you are standing, but which direction you are going.

	Peaceblinkfriend  +  544315 Mon, 21 Jul 08 07:58 AM New2grammar “Peace, I wanted to ask your question but That for or that of... Think about it a minute. ” I was going back and forth between 'that of' and 'that for' as well and then I settled down with 'that of'. It sounded better that way to my ears though I know it doesn't really correspond to the first time Google search was mentioned (Google search for "ABC") so to speak. At any rate, I am not certain replacing 'the Google search for "XYZ"' with 'that of/for' does much as the very least. PBF Peaceblinkfriend Grammar