little_star  +  108951 Wed, 15 Jun 05 04:52 AM Shall I say: 1. It was highlighted that all defective milk have been excluded in the order, on the request of the client. 2. It was highlighted that as per client's request,all defective milk have been excluded in the order Which one sounds better? little_star Joined on Tue, May 31 2005 New Member 12

	Clive  +  108960 Wed, 15 Jun 05 06:03 AM Hi, No. 1 sounds much, much better to me. The use of 'per client's request' in No. 2 is typical of poor business writing by someone who thinks this kind of jargon makes the sentence seem more 'important and educated' and yet who has no feel for style or clarity of language. Wow, did I really write such a strongly worded opinion? A couple of additional corrections are a also needed: It was highlighted that all defective milk HAD or HAS been excluded FROM the order, on the request of the client. Best wishes, Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 31,003 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo

	katsudon  +  108963 Wed, 15 Jun 05 06:15 AM 1. It was highlighted that all defective milk has [have] been excluded in the order, [on] AT/UPON the request of the client. 2. It was highlighted, as per the client's request, that all defective milk has been excluded in the order. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ M-W online: Main Entry: per Function: preposition 1 : by the means or agency of : THROUGH 2 : with respect to every member of a specified group : for each 3 : according to -- often used with as usage Per occurs most frequently in business contexts; its use outside such contexts is often criticized but is quite widespread, especially in sense 2. Its most common and natural nonbusiness uses always involve figures, usually in relation to price , automobiles , or sports . katsudon Joined on Fri, Jun 10 2005 Junior Member 53 Prepositions

	MrPedantic  +  108990 Wed, 15 Jun 05 07:45 AM Hello little* 'At the client's request' is also very common. 'As per' sounds a little old-fashioned these days. MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 12,679 ...opella forensis / adducit febris...

	katsudon  +  109000 Wed, 15 Jun 05 08:12 AM I disagree that it is old fashioned. Googled: 5,540,000 English pages for "as per". People use it because it is one collocation that is available to ENLs to use in certain circumstances. katsudon

	paco2004  +  109011 Wed, 15 Jun 05 08:53 AM I believe "as per ~" can be used when the expression is idiomatic. "As per the client's request" might be idiomatic in AmE. However, likely it is out of fashion in BrE. Google gives zero hit for "as per the client's request" when the domain is restricted into UK. paco paco2004 Joined on Wed, Nov 17 2004 Senior Member 4,095 In Japan today even dogs are learning how to bow-wow in English.

	ranchhand  +  109015 Wed, 15 Jun 05 09:10 AM We get a slightly different story when we use only "as per", again strictly for UK pages: Googled: Results 1 - 10 of about 823,000 for "as per". For the full phrase, I got, Results 1 - 3 of about 7 for "as per the client's request". ranchhand Joined on Sun, May 15 2005 Junior Member 81

	Clive  +  109102 Wed, 15 Jun 05 01:24 PM Hi guys, The original question was 'Which one sounds better?'. Do you think that a simple counting of google hits will adequately answer this question? Best wishes, Clive Clive

	MrPedantic  +  109132 Wed, 15 Jun 05 02:34 PM To my mind, 'as per' belongs with 'pursuant to', 'at your earliest convenience', and the 13th inst. I suppose you could use it if you wanted to deter prospective clients. MrP MrPedantic