B and P

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Nanoo  #450475  Thu, 06 Dec 07 10:09 PM
Hi all,

I have a pronunciation  problem with B's and P's, i usually use B instead of P and P instead of B i don't know what to do, guys please advise?
  
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Kooyeen  #450477  Thu, 06 Dec 07 10:27 PM
Hi,
when you do a P and a B, your mouth does exactly the same things (= it moves the same way). The difference is that B is the "voiced" version of P. This means that when you say "B", your throat should "vibrate", and when you say "P" your throat should not.
It's the same difference that there is between F and V. When you say V your throat vibrates, when you say F it does not, but your mouth and tongue are in the same position. Try to say Vvvvvvv.... then Ffffffff.... Now you can try with P's and B's.

I'm sorry I can't help you more, but it depends on your native language. If there are no B's or P's in your language, then it's normal you're having a hard time pronouncing them. In this case, either you just try to imitate native speakers' sounds, or you can also try to see if this is any useful to you: [link]

Click on "Launch English Library". That's for American English, by the way. It'll show you how to move your mouth.

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Nanoo  #450480  Thu, 06 Dec 07 10:48 PM
Yeah i got your point, do you think it's better to practic by using the British English or the American English?
  
Kooyeen  #450495  Thu, 06 Dec 07 11:40 PM
It depends. Haven't you already chosen what variety you want to learn?

Anyway, the consonants are the same, the vowels are different.

  
Anonymous  #450612  Fri, 07 Dec 07 08:38 AM

Hi,

As Kyoeen says, the difference is that /p/ is voiceless whereas /b/ is voiced. Both are made with the two lips. It is your vocal folds that vibrate, not your "throat", when you produce voiced sounds, and in English the voiced sounds often have devoiced allophonic variants in which case the length of the preceding vowel and a very slight degree of voicing of the following "voiced" consonant or both tell us what sound the speaker is producing.

  
Anonymous  #450613  Fri, 07 Dec 07 08:41 AM

Hi,

There are some differences in BrE and AmE consonants depending on which variety of BrE or AmE we are talking about. Anyone learning English does need to choose a very specific model for imitation. Asking yourself questions such as, "Do I mostly interact with Brits or Americans in my daily life?" and, "Do I identify more strongly with British or American culture?" may be relevant.

  
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