victorycountry  +  80360 Fri, 11 Mar 05 08:51 AM Hi, I am just wondering the difference between following examples. a) I believe in you(or I believe in God) b) I believe you(or I believe God) Could anyone help me understand please. Thanks in advance. victorycountry Joined on Sat, Oct 16 2004 Full Member 313 Difference Between

	nona the brit  +  80389 Fri, 11 Mar 05 12:30 PM If I believe in God (or whoever) I accept their existance as reality. If I believe God, ( or whoever) I accept that they are telling me the truth. nona the brit Joined on Wed, Sep 22 2004 England Veteran Member 11,713 The name says it all.

	paco2004  +  80402 Fri, 11 Mar 05 01:38 PM Hello "I believe in you." I have never heard this kind of phrase in my life. I would be very happy if my wife says this to me, but I know she would never do so. Suppose I had been accused of some crime when my mother was still alive, I think, then she (=my mother) would have said to me:"I believe in you". I was really faithful to my mother when I was a child. But I'm wondering if I were so faithful to my wife. "I believe you." I have tried to tell here only what I believe true. But here some guy seems disinclined to believe me even when what I am answering to him has proved true. To me it's kinda the most unpleasant thing in the world, but I don't mind it. I know there are many guys of this sort, who are too proud to get answers from non native speakers, (especially from their compatriots) on this kind of language QA forum. Anyway I don't mind it, and so you don't need to mind it. To me everything in this world is just a dream and a dream is nothing but a dream, be it pleasant or unpleasant. I'm afraid I drank too much this night. Please put this into a garbage box. paco paco2004 Joined on Wed, Nov 17 2004 Senior Member 4,095 In Japan today even dogs are learning how to bow-wow in English.

	Mister Micawber  +  80411 Fri, 11 Mar 05 02:08 PM Garbage box? Not a chance, Paco! That is an excellent set of comments both on the grammar point and on your viewpoints. Thank you, as always, for sharing them with us. Mister Micawber Joined on Wed, Aug 4 2004 Yokohama Veteran Member 30,798 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master-- that's all.' Grammar

	pieanne  +  80445 Fri, 11 Mar 05 03:15 PM I guess that to say "I believe God" you must have shared some kind of conversation with him/her at some time? pieanne Joined on Thu, Jan 20 2005 South of France ...But I'm Belgian! Veteran Member 7,517 I'm glad to help, but I'm not a native! And please excuse my typos... Conversations

	CalifJim  +  80554 Sat, 12 Mar 05 05:41 AM Hi, Anne, You guessed right! To believe someone is to believe what they say! Jim CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,399 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche

	pieanne  +  80571 Sat, 12 Mar 05 08:21 AM Gee, thanks, Jim! pieanne

	MrPedantic  +  80577 Sat, 12 Mar 05 09:32 AM It's interesting that there's a difference between 'believe in' when we speak of 1) God/fairies/the Loch Ness Monster, and 'believe in' when we speak of 2) you/him/us etc. I suppose it's simply because belief-in-existence-of has to precede belief-in-qualities-of. MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 12,592 ...opella forensis / adducit febris... Difference Between