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Anonymous  +  794606 Thu, 25 Jun 09 08:52 AM
Is the song title "Me and Bobby McGee" an example of incorrect usage? Me, and Arnold Zwicky, think/s not. Zwicky says that because "me and Bobby McGee", in the song, is  the object of a preposition, it is grammatical, and I agree with him.

 

What do you think?

Best answer by Clive  +  794806 Thu, 25 Jun 09 12:35 PM
Hi,

Is the song title "Me and Bobby McGee" an example of incorrect usage? Me, and Arnold Zwicky, think/s not. Zwicky says that because "me and Bobby McGee", in the song, is  the object of a preposition, it is grammatical, and I agree with him.

 

What do you think? 'Me' is fine.

 

Best wishes, Clive

 

Busted flat in Baton Rouge, headin' for the train,
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans.
Bobby thumbed a diesel down, just before it rained;
Took us all the way to New Orleans.
I took my harpoon out of my dirty red bandanna,
And was blowing sad while Bobby sang the blues.
With them windshield wipers slappin' time,
And Bobby clappin' hands,
We finally sang up every song that driver knew.

Freedom's just another word for nothing' left to lose:
Nothin' ain't worth nothin' but it's free.
Feeling good was easy, Lord, when Bobby sang the blues.
Feeling good was good enough for me;
Good enough for me and Bobby McGee.

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Kooyeen  +  794825 Thu, 25 Jun 09 12:53 PM
It doesn't matter whether it is the object or the subject, it would be fine anyway. I wonder why you are even asking this question.
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Anonymous, 135 days ago
Kooyeen
“It doesn't matter whether it is the object or the subject, it would be fine anyway. I wonder why you are even asking this question.

 

 

Fine? Even for the prescriptivists? How so?

Anonymous, 135 days ago
Thanks for the repsonse, Clive. How about in "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard", by Paul Simon?
Kooyeen  +  795478 Thu, 25 Jun 09 10:30 PM
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Kooyeen
“It doesn't matter whether it is the object or the subject, it would be fine anyway. I wonder why you are even asking this question.

 


Fine? Even for the prescriptivists? How so?



Why should you care about prescriptivists?

MrPedantic  +  795480 Thu, 25 Jun 09 10:36 PM
In the version by P!nk, the title is ungrammatical.

 

In all the other versions, it's fine.

 

MrP

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Clive  +  795486 Thu, 25 Jun 09 10:44 PM
Hi,

How about in "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard", by Paul Simon?

 

You have to look at that phrase in the context of the relevant sentence in the lyrics, which is this.

See you, me and julio
Down by the schoolyard

 

See you.

See me.

See Julio.

These all seem to be objects. 'Me' is fine.

 

 Are there any other lyrics that perplex you?

 

Best wishes, Clive

AlpheccaStars  +  795495 Thu, 25 Jun 09 10:46 PM
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Fine? Even for the prescriptivists? How so?


Prescriptivists today are sailing against the gales of mediocrity, adrift in the vast oceans of literary ignorance, besieged by the vicious onslaughts of rap, dialect, and urbandictionary.

 

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