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Katarina  +  188071 Tue, 24 Jan 06 04:37 PM
Hello,

Is the term 'English English' ever used? That is, is it appropriate to be used interchangeably with the term 'British English'?

Thanks.

Kat

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pieanne  +  188075 Tue, 24 Jan 06 04:41 PM

I've only ever heard of "British English" as opposed to "American English"... But wait for the natives.

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nona the brit  +  188092 Tue, 24 Jan 06 05:00 PM
No because Britain contains more than just England. You'll annoy a lot of Scots and Welsh and Irish people if you start saying English English.
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Katarina  +  188107 Tue, 24 Jan 06 05:26 PM
 Nona The Brit wrote:
No because Britain contains more than just England. You'll annoy a lot of Scots and Welsh and Irish people if you start saying English English.


Okay! I'll be more cautious with the terminology then!

Another related question then, to Nona:

Is is okay to refer to a British by 'British'? or is it that the British don't usually like that and they insist on specifying (i.e. Irish, Welsh, Scottish, English).
 
One more question:

What's the difference between Scot, Scottish and Scotch.

I really appreciate the help!! Smile [:)]

Kat
nona the brit  +  188190 Tue, 24 Jan 06 07:13 PM

A Scot (noun) is Scottish (adj) and they drink Scotch (whisky!). No ok, Scotch gets used as an adj sometimes but not really for people I think. I'm not Scottish though so I'm not 100% sure.

As for the British or English, Welsh, Scottish etc, that really is down to personal preference. Be careful about Irish though as Eire (southern Ireland is not part of the UK and they will be very upset if you call them British). In fact, even those from Northern Ireland are usually called Irish rather than British. I think you'll also find the welsh and Scots are more inclined to prefer their own nationality than 'British'. Some English are fussy about it, some aren't.

Sorry I know that all sounds confusing! There aren't really any set rules, but the worst crime you can commit is to use English to cover everybody!

Sam C  +  188224 Tue, 24 Jan 06 08:30 PM
 Nona The Brit wrote:
A Scot (noun) is Scottish (adj) and they drink Scotch (whisky!). No ok, Scotch gets used as an adj sometimes but not really for people I think. I'm not Scottish though so I'm not 100% sure.
i don't think you'll find many scots who drink 'scotch'.  it's usually 'whisky', in my circles anyway, and it's usually spoken[,] so there's no need to quibble over the whiskey/whisky distinction.

'scotch' meaning 'whisky' is a sure sign of a sassenach.  it isn't really a word that crops up too often, outwith 'scotch mist' and a handful of other locutions that is.

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nona the brit  +  188289 Tue, 24 Jan 06 10:09 PM

Ah well, I did say I wasn't an expert Smile [:)]

I know most people say whisky/whiskey apart from us down here saying 'Scotch on the rocks'!

Would you agree with the rest of what I said though? It is quite a confusing issue overall...

Sam C  +  188343 Tue, 24 Jan 06 10:39 PM
I know most people say whisky/whiskey apart from us down here saying 'Scotch on the rocks'!
och no, heaven's forbid, whit wuid we want to be pollutin' oor uisge beatha with ice for, now! Smile [:)]
Would you agree with the rest of what I said though? It is quite a confusing issue overall...
yes, i'll go with that, nona - it is pretty intricate.

sam
Clive  +  188393 Tue, 24 Jan 06 11:47 PM

Hi Nona,

In fact, even those from Northern Ireland are usually called Irish rather than British.

When I lived in England, the cover of my passport referred to 'Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. Is the official name of  what you guys cobbled together not The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? So, what are we poor Ulstermen supposed to call ourselves?

Best wishes, Clive 

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