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3. lunch box
6. baking pan
Let's say they all have rims, and the round ones have brims.
You can say, "the rim of the canyon, the rim of the plateau, the rim of the plate, the rim of the desk." Some hats have brims.
3. lunch box
6. baking pan
Those in blue have abrim, am I right?
So, in this first Websterian sense, all the words in the above list have a brim, since they can all contain.
I hate it when bartenders fill martini glasses to the brim. When I try to lift it to my mouth, it always spills, no matter how careful I am.
Johnny's mother filled his lunchbox to the brim every day with good, healthful food, which he promptly traded to his classmates for candy and chips.
You should never fill a baking pan to the brim with batter, since the batter will expand during baking. Only fill them halfway.
I love going caroling. It always fills me to the brim with the "Christmas spirit."
In our next discussion, we will take on rimless, or coupe-style, soup bowls
Everything else: rim.
New2grammarCan I say "the brim of the plate" since they are mostly round? Could you also mark those examples of mine that have brims?With salutations to Del, I would have said "no." I meant brims are possessed by all the round items on your list as it stands. That excludes only "lunch box" and "baking pan" in my experience, although I now recall that we had a few round baking pans for making round cakes, and cupcake tins for baking nine or a dozen cupcakes together, each cup of which could be said to have a brim.
All the items on your list are containers of sorts, so anything on your list which you conceive of as being round IMHO would have a brim. I didn't mean to imply that anything which is round has a brim. (Certainly not "round like a ball," which is spherical.") The plate is a slippery slope. Some plates are "dished" more than others, in the engineering sense. All have rims and may be "filled to the brim," but I'd say most do not have brims. All of the containers on your list have side walls approaching the vertical. I'd say a Frisbie has a brim, but that's argumentative. (Does it only have a brim when you hold it upside down?)
I seem to remember that the origin of "fill to the brim" had something to do with a positive meniscus, but I can't seem to find it. (The surface tension between liquids and the walls of containers causes some to slope upward and some downward at the point of contact, so some liquids (like mercury) can fill a container to above the rim.)
Positive meniscus??? Good Lord, I thought I was muddying the waters by bringing in the idea of a geometric concept.
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