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frenchfry  +  69746 Mon, 24 Jan 05 07:22 PM
Sorry, this will probably be a really long post. My mission? To dispell false notions about American EnglishSmile [:)]

First, we do NOT say "drug" as the past tense of "drag." It's dragged! There are only three kinds of Americans who would say this: Young children who have not yet mastered the grammatical nuances of English, lazy teenagers, or uneducated adults. We do say "burned" as the past tense of burn, but when we are describing something, it is correct to say burnt, not burned ("I hate burnt toast."). That is not to say that some Americans do not say burned...

We do not hold that it is correct to say, "I didn't phone the doctor yet." Of course, we'd say "call", not "phone", but that's another story. A few people do say the aforementioned phrase, but an AmE teacher would probably tell you that that is incorrect.

No one under the age of thirty-five would say "I've got a really nice car." They would say "I have a really nice car," or, "I own a really nice car." We do say "has gotten" rather than "has got."

Americans say poTAYto, and Canadians say poTAHto. I guess that's how it got into the songSmile [:)]

French fries, or chips, whatever you call them, are not called "freedom fries" (Although since Brits aren't supposed to like the French, maybe it would make you more fond of us ignorant Americans better if we did call them thatSmile [:)]. I suppose a few rednecks from a certain Southern state (we won't mention which one) suggested that they be called freedom fries, but... Oh, and I have nothing against Southerners--I'm related to them, after allSmile [:)]

I guess we change the spelling because it is more convenient. "Color" is takes less effort to spell than "colour" and serves the same purpose. "Colour" looks like it wants to fall down the page anyway...Well, never mind that. I have to admit, though--there's something charming about "gray" being spelled "grey." Much less generic. That's the word for AmE spelling--generic!

I didn't know British people used the word "suck"--lol!

In general, Americans do not make the word "school" into two syllables. They do say "scho-ol" in the South, though. They tend to draw out words and add diphthongs so that one-syllable words are made into two-syllable words. I'm afraid we all reverse, leave out, and add syllables many times, however (i.e. "nucular"--ahhh!). The Philadelphia-area accent is absolutely disgusting in that respect--I can say that cuz I am Philadelphian. Someone needs to come over here and teach Americans how to readSmile [:)]

Unfortunately, the AmE that you hear on TV really is standard for some American, somewhere (although there is extra profanity on TVSmile [:)]. However, the English you hear on TV isn't always considered correct, just widely used. We really are lazy in our speech--we'll say something incorrectly just because it is easier to do so. Then there are the people who have to talk the wrong way to avoid being mugged by their peers (moi?). Some of the slang used on TV is used in urban areas, and not usually outside of cities and the TV--for instance, "bling-bling" or "fa-shizzle."

America has a ton of English dialects (though those are slowly dying) and accents. I personally think that our accents are more intelligible than most British accents (although I'm biased), but British accents of any kind definitely sound prettier (with the possible exception of Cockney--does the Cockney accent really sound like it does in My Fair Lady?). Then there are the American accents I have a hard time understanding.

Now for my (probably idiotic-sounding) questions. Is "bloody" considered to be BrE profanity, or just a somewhat impolite word (like suck)? Also, is asking for a ride asking for something...unmentionble in BrE? I think we ask for a ride when you'd ask for a lift...
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frenchfry  +  69747 Mon, 24 Jan 05 07:25 PM
We actually spell "theater" that way or "theatre" in American English. When you say jewelry, do you say it je-wel-er-y or jule-ry?
nona the brit  +  69792 Mon, 24 Jan 05 11:24 PM
Hi French fry, you made some interesting comments there. To answer your questions:

Does the Cockney accent really sound like it does in My Fair Lady?. - Absolutely NOT.

Is "bloody" considered to be BrE profanity, or just a somewhat impolite word (like suck)? - It is not really a profanity, it is an impolite word that crops up quite a lot as an adjective. Bloody car wouldn't start this morning, I wish it would stop bloody raining. Some people won't say it though, usually older people still think it is a bit 'naughty' - my mum would say 'bloomin' as a euphamism for bloody.

When it is combined with hell 'Bloody Hell!' it is an exclamation of amazement/surprise/annoyance and that is something a lot of people consider more of a profanity.


Also, is asking for a ride asking for something...unmentionble in BrE? I think we ask for a ride when you'd ask for a lift... Well, I think most people would understand you but recognise it as an Americanism, the British term is a lift though. 'Ride' is a euphamism for, well if you think it is unmentionable I won't mention it. It's particularly used in Ireland I believe! Watch the film 'The Commitments' with their theory that Soul music is all about 'Riding' and you will realise they are not talking about pony-trekking!

And yes, we may spell it strangely(!) but we say 'juwl -rey'
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British accents of any kind definitely sound prettier (with the possible exception of Cockney.......)


I think there are much more unattractive British accents. Take a Liverpool accent for example...ugh!
David  +  69936 Tue, 25 Jan 05 12:53 PM
Bloody came about because a common profanity in the past was By our Lady. now corrupted to bloody without most people realizing its origins.
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Pea33, 4 yr 301 days ago
That's weird, I've never that beforeSmile [:)] cool!
cloud  +  71049 Sun, 30 Jan 05 06:58 PM
wait... what about asking for a ride/lift thing? Dont u think 'ride' makes more sense?
The definition of lift is: "raise or remove to a higher position. 2 intr. go up; be raised. 3 tr. elevate to a higher plane of thought or feeling {...}" the rest of it said something like raising/moving to higher place etc etc.
In contrast to the definition of ride: "travel or be carried on (a bicycle, etc.) or in (a vehicle). 2 tr. & intr. sit on and control or be carried by (a horse, etc.) 3 tr. be carried or supported by. 4 tr. traverse {...}" the rest said something like going or procede.

i have some idea of what the unmentionable is....right

Anyway, what about "freakin' " (friggin'?)? Maybe that could be the american version of "bloody"... cause i use freakin' when mad about something or to emphasize something or as if explaining a situation.
Ex. "i hate this freakin' game!" or "He, freakin', called the place and asked for her"
But to me, "freakin' " is impolite and mostly used by teenagers.

And suck is like the word cool... there's no other word thats equal to it....it just sucks lol or its just that cool... u know?

I have a question about accents. Secretary. Is it pron. "seh-crih-tree" in the british accent?
And the word literally, is it pron. "litrally" in the british accent? American=seh-crih-tairy, lid-er-illy/lid-er-elly.

American: jewelery= juwl-ery

This post is longer than i thought... sorry lol
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Pea33, 4 yr 292 days ago
Actually, I find sucks to be the equivelant to stinks ...
cloud, 4 yr 290 days ago
whoa.... ur smart! i never thought of that..weird
thank uSmile [:)]
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