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Kooyeen  #458161  Sat, 29 Dec 07 01:47 PM
Hi,
this was written by a 17-year-old American girl.


What do you expect, she's Britney Spears sister. At least she's having some heart to keep the baby instead of having abortion.


I'd like to hear some comments from you. If possible, don't just say "This is wrong, period" or "It's ok, period"... If you can give a complete opinion on how it sound to American ears, I'll appreciate it.
Thanks Smile [:)]

  
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Marius Hancu  #458169  Sat, 29 Dec 07 02:25 PM
I'd suggest:

What do you expect, she's Britney Spears's sister. At least she's showing some heart by keeping the baby instead of having an abortion.
  
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Kooyeen  #458184  Sat, 29 Dec 07 02:57 PM
Hi,
thanks. I don't want to change the verbs or words anyway, just get some comments on it.

I don't understand why it's "Britney Spears sister" ans not "Britney Spears's sister" (= pronounced Spearses sister).

And why she says "She's having some heart". I always hear these continuous tenses where prescriptive grammar would forbid them. Like "I can finally buy that sweater I've been wanting!".




  
Marius Hancu  #458185  Sat, 29 Dec 07 02:59 PM
You're right about that one. Edited my posting.
  
Kooyeen  #458186  Sat, 29 Dec 07 03:03 PM
I was posting too.
Anyway, I'm not sure I'm right, because I just looked for some video about that, on Youtube, because I wanted to "hear" it. It turned out on CBS they said "Britney Spears sister", not "Spears's".

 Kooyeen wrote:
Hi,
thanks. I don't want to change the verbs or words anyway, just get some comments on it.

I don't understand why it's "Britney Spears sister" ans not "Britney Spears's sister" (= pronounced Spearses sister).

And why she says "She's having some heart". I always hear these continuous tenses where prescriptive grammar would forbid them. Like "I can finally buy that sweater I've been wanting!".
  
Kooyeen  #458233  Sat, 29 Dec 07 05:26 PM
Ok, I just searched the net, and it's definitely not "Spears's". I wonder why. Don't you say Mike Jones's house? Or can I alos say Mike Jones' house?
  
MrPedantic  #458266  Sat, 29 Dec 07 08:22 PM

Hello K.,

I would take "Britney Spears sister" as a typo for "Britney Spears' sister". (You can say "Spears's" too.)

"She's having some heart to" is not a phrase I've ever heard; but it's intelligible, and conveys both "she has the courage to" and "she is good-hearted enough to". It could well be the speaker's own coinage, or the result of a mis-edit. 

"Having an abortion" would be the usual form, except in a telegram.

It looks like it may have been written in haste.

(Not that my ears are American.)

MrP

  
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Marius Hancu  #458274  Sat, 29 Dec 07 08:53 PM
>"Britney Spears' sister". (You can say "Spears's" too.)

I agree with MrP here.
  
Cool Breeze  #458285  Sat, 29 Dec 07 09:21 PM
 Kooyeen wrote:
Anyway, I'm not sure I'm right, because I just looked for some video about that, on Youtube, because I wanted to "hear" it. It turned out on CBS they said "Britney Spears sister", not "Spears's".

Hi Kooyeen

You may be interested in what Otto Jespersen says about the genitive in his Essentials of English Grammar:

"While we have the full genitive in James's wife, St James's Park, Keats's poems, Chamber's Journal, the ending is left out in other names  -  chieflly classical  -  ending in a sibilant:

He has done Hercules' share.
St Agnes' eve.
Pears' soap.

Note especially for conscience' sake, for goodness' sake (on account of the following s); before sake the s is also sometimes left out, even if the word does not in itself end in s: for brevity sake, for fashion sake."

Had there been a language academy in England in days gone by, it might have tried to get rid of some of the above in its efforts to streamline the grammar. People don't always take kindly to what a language academy suggests, though. Genitives like Britney Spears' sister are more common in AmE than BrE.

Cheers
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