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Latest post Wed, Nov 10 2004 1:51 PM by eagertolearn. 11 replies.
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eagertolearn  +  54542 Wed, 10 Nov 04 01:51 PM
hi there! I'm a new member. I live in Barcelona (Spain) and work as a private English teacher although I still have a lot to learn. I have a degree on English Philology but I have never lived abroad so I still make a lot of mistakes in English. I hope all of you can help me improve it. thanks in advance and here is the essay I need you to take a look.


The Importance of Being Earnest

In this play, written by Oscar Wilde, we find different views on marriage. At the very beginning, for example, we see Algernon and his servant Lane talking about this topic. This conversation is what makes Algernon reach the conclusion that marriage is nonsense. According to him, the best thing is not to marry, on the grounds that after getting married, all romantic essence is lost. However, he changes his mind once he meets Cecily. He falls in love with her and shows it by changing his name for the name Earnest just to please her since this is, according to her, the ideal name for a husband.
On the one hand, we find characters such as Jack, Cecily’s guardian, who definitely believe in romanticism, marriage and true love. As his friend Algernon, Jack is capable of being christened Earnest in order to satisfy Gwendolen, who sees marriage as a compulsory stage in the life of any Victorian woman. She devotes herself completely to Jack, and disobeys her mother by being with him. In the play, we also find Cecily’s point of view about marriage. She is a young girl full of innocence, who cannot resist Jack’s charm so she accepts to marry him without hesitating. Matrimony is, for her, the best way to confirm their love and make their relationship official
On the other hand, Lady Bracknell, Gwendolen’s mother, considers marriage a business, in which her daughter has to be benefited. For this reason, she interrogates Jack about his financial situation and familiar background. Although at the beginning she opposes this marriage, she accepts him as her son-in-law, once she realizes her daughter and Jack are really in love.
Chasuable and Miss Prim express their point of view too. The first one does not believe in marriage, since he thinks that when someone gets married, nothing changes, so it does not help us at all; whereas the second one believes in it and thinks it is something everybody needs to do.
In conclusion, all the characters in the play have their own opinion about marriage, even though in some cases they change their mind as the play goes on. We could distinguish three main positions: those who believe in love but not in marriage, those who believe in marriage but not in love and those who simply believe in none of them.


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The Ghost  +  54599 Wed, 10 Nov 04 05:56 PM
hi new member here in English forum , you said I'm English teatcher in private school , so you must to be very well , I'm as you I teach English in Saudi Arabia in a college (teatcher's college) finally , we must to improve our language .
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julielai  +  54641 Wed, 10 Nov 04 10:37 PM
Question: what's the assignment about?

Just the glaring errors.

In this play, written by Oscar Wilde, we find different views on marriage. At the very beginning, for example, we see Algernon and his servant Lane talking about this topic. This conversation is what makes Algernon reach the conclusion that marriage is nonsense. According to him, the best thing is not to marry, on the grounds that after getting married, all romantic essence is lost. However, he changes his mind once he meets Cecily. He falls in love with her and shows it by changing his name for the name Earnest just to please her since this is, according to her, the ideal name for a husband.

On the one hand, we find characters such as Jack, Cecily’s guardian, who definitely believe*s in romanticism, marriage and true love.
*Like (???) (I get the names mixed up so I'm not sure whom you're referring to) his friend Algernon, Jack *can christen himself Earnest in order to satisfy Gwendolen, who sees marriage as a *necessary(???) stage in *a Victorian woman's life.
She devotes herself completely to Jack, and disobeys her mother by being with him. In the play, we also find Cecily’s point of view about marriage. She is an *innocent young girl who cannot resist Jack’s charm so she accepts *his proposal without hesitating. Matrimony is, for her, the best way to confirm their love and make their relationship official

On the other hand, Lady Bracknell, Gwendolen’s mother, considers marriage a business, *something that her daughter benefits from. For this reason, she interrogates Jack about his financial situation and *his background. Though she opposes this marriage *at first, she accepts him as her son-in-law, once she realizes her daughter and Jack are really in love.
Chasuable and Miss Prim express their point of view too. The *former does not believe in marriage, since he thinks that when someone gets married, nothing changes, so it does not help us (who are us?) at all; whereas the *latter believes in it (*what is it?) and thinks it is something everybody needs to do.
In conclusion, all the characters in the play have their own opinion about marriage, even though in some cases they change their mind as the play goes on. We could distinguish three main positions: those who believe in love but not in marriage, those who believe in marriage but not in love and those who simply believe in *neither.
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bluefish, 5 yr 13 days ago
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forgive me if i'm wrong,but i think "must" is never followed by "to".
eagertolearn, 5 yr 12 days ago
You're right. "must" is never followed by "to".
eagertolearn  +  54737 Thu, 11 Nov 04 12:20 PM
The assignment was about the different views on marriage we can find in The importance of being earnest. This is the corrected version (done by me) but the original one was written by a student of mine who is at university studying English translation.

I thought if I say "we find characters such as Jack who..." the verb ought to be in plural cause we say "characters" in plural.

in "she interrogates him about his financial situation and his background" why do we have to repeat the possessive adjective if it's the same?

when I say: "whereas the later beleives in it" I make reference to marriage.

can't we say "none" if we talk about things? is it only for people?

thanks for the correction and for your time.
julielai  +  54764 Thu, 11 Nov 04 03:04 PM
when I say: "whereas the later beleives in it" I make reference to marriage.
- I have to go back all the way to the beginning of the sentence to find what "it" refers to, especially when you have "it does not help us at all"--looks as if the two it's are referring to the same thing.

can't we say "none" if we talk about things? is it only for people?
--None can be used with people, but in this case, you are talking about "none of marriage and love" -- two things -- and "neither" works better.

You're right on the other two things. I did it in a hurry (without thinking!)

eagertolearn  +  55012 Fri, 12 Nov 04 08:50 PM
Thank you so much julielai!!! By the way, I tend to write the word "realise" this way since I was told it's the British version but I have checked it in several dictionaries and all of them write it "realize". Could you explain it to me? Thanks again!
julielai  +  55014 Fri, 12 Nov 04 09:06 PM
I spell it with a z, though I've seen both.

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