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Latest post Sun, Nov 28 2004 9:49 PM by eagertolearn. 3 replies.
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eagertolearn  +  58036 Sun, 28 Nov 04 09:49 PM
I need to hand in this exercise but I want to make sure the grammar is right. I have doubts about the second sentence where it says "Down below..." is it right? Can we say "It can be observed several..."? Thanks for your help!


There are several linguistic resources that help people express genericity. Down below, it can be observed several forms that can also express something different than genericity.
In the first pair of sentences one find two degrees of genericity expressed by the zero determiner and the presence of a count plural noun. The sentence Park rangers are available is more specific than Park rangers are brave. As regards meaning, while in the first one the reference is made to a specific place; in the second one, one assumes that the reference is made to all the rangers in general, it implies they have to be brave in order to perform their duty.
Two ungrammatical constructions such as The blood irrigates our bodies and A dingo is indigenous to Australia can also be found. Here the speaker is trying to express genericity, but the article the makes it impossible. Thus it would be correct, if it said Blood irrigates our bodies, implying all bodies; and Dingos are indigenous to Australia, meaning all dingos.
The last cases are Blood is gushing out of his wound and Blood is full of nutrients. Both denote genericity by means of the lack of article. However, the first one makes reference to the blood of some man, through the use of the possessive adjective his; and the second one to everybody’s blood. From this it can be concluded that the former sentence is more specific than the second one.
This exercise is an example of the system of qualification by which one expresses his or her perception of a thing or entity as a countable or uncountable mass noun, around two processes either relating to the semantic nature of entities which are lexicalized as mass or count or to the grammatical marking of entities (singular/plural, mass/count).
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anon1  +  58098 Mon, 29 Nov 04 05:40 AM

There are several linguistic resources that help people express genericity(??, what's genercity?). Down below, it can be observed several forms that can also express something different than genericity(?)--awkward sentence.

In the first pair of sentences one findSleep [S] two degrees of genericity expressed by the zero determiner and the presence of a count plural noun. The sentence[,] "Park rangers are available." is more specific than, "Park rangers are brave." As regards meaning, while in the first one the reference is made to a specific place (incomplete); in the second one, one assumes that the reference is made to all the rangers in general, it implies they have to be brave in order to perform their duty.(run-on)

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Two ungrammatical constructions such as The blood irrigates our bodies and A dingo is indigenous to Australia can also be found. Here the speaker is trying to express genericity, but the article the makes it impossible. Thus it would be correct, if it said Blood irrigates our bodies, implying all bodies; and Dingos are indigenous to Australia, meaning all dingos.

The last cases are Blood is gushing out of his wound and Blood is full of nutrients. Both denote genericity by means of the lack of article. However, the first one makes reference to the blood of some man, through the use of the possessive adjective his; and the second one to everybody’s blood. From this it can be concluded that the former sentence is more specific than the second one.

This exercise is an example of the system of qualification by which one expresses his or her perception of a thing or entity as a countable or uncountable mass noun, around two processes either relating to the semantic nature of entities which are lexicalized as mass or count or to the grammatical marking of entities (singular/plural, mass/count).




I am not sure if English is a second language or if this is for a course. Your grammar and punctuation are poor.

In the following pair of sentences you will find two degrees of genericity[what is this "genericity"?] expressed by the zero determiner and the presence of a count plural noun.

Sentence A: Park rangers are available.

Sentence B: Park ranger are brave.

With regard to meaning, in Sentence A reference is made to a specific place, while in Sentence B, the reference is implied to all park rangers--it implies that park rangers need to be brave to perform their duties.

You mishmashed your example sentences in with your text and thus it is hard to read and understand. You should strive to make it easy for the reader to quickly and readily grasp the text and its implications. Moreover, you have some incomplete sentences and run-ons. If you had a cleaner structure, I think you would catch your errors more readily.

I hope this helps.

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eagertolearn  +  58885 Thu, 02 Dec 04 02:04 PM
First of all, I want to thank you for correcting the exercise. I don't think my grammar is poor at all but I respect your opinion. English is for me a second language so I admit I still need to improve my punctuation, but I wouldn't say my grammar is "poor".
I'm surprised you don't know what "genericity" means since I didn't make this word up, it was the teacher of the subject who used this term. Some moderators have suggested me to use "genericness".
I'm sorry you found the text difficult to read I just followed the teacher's instructions. He said we were only allowed to write four paragraphs, including the examples. If I had been given the chance, I would have done it in another way. But that was not the case.

many thanks
anon1, 4 yr 355 days ago
eagertolearn,

I might have been a little aggressive. I am sorry.

MountainHiker
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