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For example, can we say "He helped change the battery for her."?
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Hi,
You can use the bare infinitive in that case, but your sentence is not quite correct.
Try to say one of these instead:
He helped her change the battery.
He helped her to change the battery.

Regards
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Hi,

A further comment.

He helped her (to) change the battery. Sounds like she did part of the work. ie they changed it together.
He helped to change the battery for her. Doesn't sound like that. eg She asked him to do it for her.


Clive
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HongkieFor example, can we say "He helped change the battery for her."?
Yes, you can. Most speakers would accept your sentence as meaning that direct help was provided. Help is usually followed by an infinitive verb - here are two other examples, again meaning that direct help was provided:

I helped to clear up the mess (to-infinitive verb)
They helped redecorate her flat (bare infinitive verb)
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Thank you, Regards.
Thank you, Clive.

It seems to me that "They helped redecorate her flat." is wrong. There must be an object before "redecorate". Am I right?
HongkieIt seems to me that "They helped redecorate her flat." is wrong. There must be an object before "redecorate". Am I right?
No. The object doesn't have to be there. It can be worked out from context.

They helped (whoever was redecorating her flat) redecorate her flat.

CJ
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HongkieIt seems to me that "They helped redecorate her flat." is wrong
Hi,

Help- is one of those catenative verbs that can be correctly used with or without the infinitive.
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Thank you, CalifJim.

Clive's answer makes me think that we have to put the object "her" there while the word "to" is optional.

That is also what I have learnt from grammar books.

I would appreciate if Clive and Regards can comment on this.

Thant you.
Hi,

He helped change her battery.
This doesn't tell us who he helped.
eg Maybe he helped her brother.

He helped her (to) change her battery.
This suggests that she was involved in doing it.

Clive
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