Catch up with or catch up?

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komountain  #54247  Mon, 08 Nov 04 09:38 PM
I have taught English to my country people. I am not a native speaker, even though I put in my two cents for those who post questions here. There is one thing that has bothered me. I would appreciate your help. Please take a look at the following sentence.

"He was too fast. I couldn't catch up with him." This statement sounds correct. But when these two sentences are combined into one, should it be "He was too fast to catch up with."
or "He was too fast to catch up."? Grammatically, the first one is correct, but the second sounds ok to my ears. Do I have to see an ear doctor?

Similarly, which one would be better?
"I have a lot of work to catch up on."
or
"I have a lot of work to catch up."


  
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MrPedantic  #54257  Mon, 08 Nov 04 11:38 PM
Hello K.

"He was too fast to catch up with" is the correct combination.

"He was too fast to catch up" means 'he was too fast to catch up [with
someone else]'. This is an intriguing paradox, - unless it relates to a
curious science-fiction world where to go fast is to lose ground...

"I have a lot of work to catch up on" is the right one. "I have a lot of work to
catch up" wouldn't really have a meaning. (Though you could say 'I'll have to do
a lot of work to catch up'.)

Keep putting in your 2¢!

MrP


  
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CalifJim  #54283  Tue, 09 Nov 04 03:15 AM
Here's a similar one.

I need ten dollars (pounds).

1) Is that too much to ask?
2) Is that too much to ask for?

Similarly,

I'm so glad we chose this hotel. It's perfect!

3) What more could a person ask?
4) What more could a person ask for?

I frequently hear it without "for", and it sounds strange to me, and yet even stranger is "For what more could a person ask?"

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julielai  #54290  Tue, 09 Nov 04 04:39 AM
May I add my own 2 cents?

It's awkward to see 2 prepositions at the end of the sentence (though it does seem right syntactically).

Would it be better if the sentence is rewritten to avoid the ending preposition cluster altogether?
  
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CalifJim  #54312  Tue, 09 Nov 04 07:00 AM
No, I don't think so at all. That "rule" about not ending a sentence with a preposition is pretty much a bogus rule. The best writers do it all the time.

The original sentence, if "sanitized" as you recommend, would, paradoxically, end up even more awkward:

"He is too fast up with whom to catch." :( Smile [:)]
  
julielai  #54366  Tue, 09 Nov 04 03:16 PM
I was just wondering if there is a better way to put it. I guess not.

Not the first bogus rule my teachers taught me.

Smile [:)]

  
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