We have partnered with TradePub to bring you free industry magazines and resources - no coupons or credit cards required!

Visit: englishforums.tradepub.com


Share this topic:
This question is Not Answered
Latest post Thu, May 14 2009 4:00 PM by AlpheccaStars. 2 replies.
Suggest an answer | | |
Anonymous  +  729555 Thu, 14 May 09 02:19 PM
Looking at the dirence in meaning between abide (reside/stay/bear/endure) how is it that when it becomes abiding it only picks up the sense of permanece / complying with... Do gerunds usually pick up only nuanced meanings from the original noun?
Clive  +  729645 Thu, 14 May 09 03:32 PM
Hi,

Looking at the dirence in meaning between abide (reside/stay/bear/endure) how is it that when it becomes abiding it only picks up the sense of permanece / complying with... Do gerunds usually pick up only nuanced meanings from the original noun?

This sounds like a huge generalization. My first reaction is to say 'No'.

If you pick a verb at random, like 'cut' for example, which has quite a number of meanings, it's just not true. 

You'd have to look at verbs on a case by case basis, to verify your hypothesis.

 

Best wishes, Clive

Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004
Canada
Veteran Member 29,581
El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo
AlpheccaStars  +  729697 Thu, 14 May 09 04:00 PM
Anon:

I would ask your question a bit differently.


First of all, the examples you give are verbs, not nouns.

In English, words often can have different parts of speech, and we can derive a noun from most of our verbs.  I don't know any exceptions!

For example - endure - endurance; reside - residence; bear - bearing.


Second, the gerund is the same word as the verb form called the present participle. It is created by adding the ending "-ing" to the verb.

A present participle that is used grammatically as a noun is called a gerund. For example, it can be the subject of a sentence, or an object.

A present participle can also be an adjective and describe a noun. 

There are cases where the present participle is a conjunction, preposition, or adverb! (Look up "considering")

These words have a meaning that is very closely related to their root verb.


The exceptions would be words that are spelled the same, but have drastically different meanings. (There are lots of these in English.) Also, a gerund may have developed a parallel, but different etymology from the root word. This can happen through natural language evolution.


Abide  does have the meaning of "wait patiently for", "to continue in the present state" so its participle, abiding, takes on a similar meaning.

His love is abiding and everlasting.  (His love abides in me.)

Joined on Sun, Oct 12 2008
Senior Member 3,508
The pen is mightier than the sword. Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-1873)
© MediaCet Ltd. 2009, v5.0.3607.32596. All content posted by our users is a contribution to the public domain, this does not include imported usenet posts.*
For web related enquires please contact us on webmaster@mediacet.com, status updates are available at status.mediacet.com.
*Usenet post removal: Use 'X-No-Archive'. You may not have understood that your posts would end up in the public domain. Please send proof of the poster's email, we will remove immediately.