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BW2/3  #264429  Sat, 09 Sep 06 04:07 AM

Cheerleader after cheeleader was practing her move.

Cheerleader after cheeleader were practing their moves.

Which is correct- and why?

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LearningNerd  #264696  Sat, 09 Sep 06 06:49 PM

The first one, because -- actually, I'm not quite sure how to explain it. Well, a quick search on google for "thing after thing was" has about 100 results, while "thing after thing were" has none.

Hmm. As I understand it, the only way to form a plural subject out of two singular nouns is to join them with the word "and". Other joining words like "or" require a singular verb, and I guess "after" does, too. There's probably a word for this sort of "one after another" construction -- does anyone know?

  
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Marius Hancu  #264786  Sun, 10 Sep 06 12:31 AM
They were coming one after another to do their practice
Cheerleader after cheeleader
(not all simultaneously), thus was
  
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Aperisic  #264792  Sun, 10 Sep 06 12:57 AM

Cheerleader after cheerleader was practicing her move.

Though it does not have the same meaning it does have the same structure as

(A)cheerleader was practicing her move after (another) cheerleader.

or

After (a) cheerleader, (another) cheerleader was practicing her move.

You can understand after cheerleader as a group of words having a function of an adverb. Precisely with plural you can write only this way

They were practicing their move, cheerleader after cheerleader.

or

Cheerleader after cheerleader, they were practicing their move.

In this case, a complete expression cheerleader after cheerleader has an adverbial function: (each) cheerleader (in a group) after (each) cheerleader (in a group)

In English there must be a subject in the sentence, and there is no word to be a subject in

Cheerleader after cheerleader was practicing her move.

except cheerleader. And that gives us no right to use plural. Another example:

[Who] An apple [what] was cut. [Who] An apple [when] after an apple [what]was cut. [Who] They [what] were cut [how] (an) apple by (an) apple ((an) apple after (an) apple).

So two (third is only an inversion) options

  • Cheerleader [when:] after cheerleader is/was ...
  • They are/were ... ,[how:] cheerleader after cheerleader.
  • [how:]Cheerleader after cheerleader, they are/were...
  
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Marius Hancu  #264804  Sun, 10 Sep 06 01:52 AM
While arguing in the favor of singular, I should mention that one can find both singular and plural forms in the press, say inThe New York Times:

Breaking Ranks, Lab Offers Test To Assess Risk of Breast Cancer

... those in which woman after woman has been stricken by breast ...

Citing Abuse, Women Ask For Clemency In Killings

"Woman after woman that I interviewed have lived ...

However, at Google:
"Woman after woman has"
is 4 times more frequent than
"Woman after woman have"
supporting the view here.


  
LearningNerd  #264849  Sun, 10 Sep 06 07:17 AM

Interesting. I wonder if there's an official word on this anywhere.

Well, no matter, I guess; this doesn't come up too often.

  
Aperisic  #264970  Sun, 10 Sep 06 03:00 PM

Maybe woman is not the most appropriate word to examine this. I've tried some other

  • "home after home is" 620 usages
  • "home after home are" 0 usages
  • "home after home was" 1.550 usages
  • "home after home were" 0 usages
  • "car after car is" 1.400 usages
  • "car after car are" 490 usages
  • "car after car was" 8.840 usages
  • "car after car were" 420 usages
  • "door after door is" 1.020 usages
  • "door after door are" 34 usages
  • "door after door was" 2.450 usages
  • "door after door were" 216 usages
  • "stone after stone is" 302 usages
  • "stone after stone are" 32 usages
  • "stone after stone was" 550 usages
  • "stone after stone were" 79 usages
  • "wall after wall is" 592 usages
  • "wall after wall are" 88 usages
  • "wall after wall was" 358 usages
  • "wall after wall were" 0 usages

Singular is always far more preferable.

However, it is always possible to take woman after woman being a subject in plural, for stylistic reasons.

  • woman after woman (is/has...) = every single woman (normal)
  • woman after woman (are/have...) = all woman (not frequent)
  
LanguageAngel  #265069  Sun, 10 Sep 06 06:27 PM

Since the phrase "after cheerleader" is a prepostional phrase, the simple sentence should be "Cheerleader was practicing her move." and NOT "Cheerleader were practicing their moves."

Two things- Does each cheerleader only have one move? The way you stated your first sentece made it seem that way. Also, I believe the word you're trying to use is "practicing" NOT "practing"

"Cheerleader after cheerleader was practicing her moves." Should be right.

  
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Clive  #265115  Sun, 10 Sep 06 08:00 PM

Hi,

'Their moves' is more inclusive, since it avoids the assumption that only females are cheerleaders. Smile [:)]

Best wishes, Clive

  
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