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Tung Quoc  #293807  Thu, 16 Nov 06 08:41 AM

Please read:

There is a realisation that changes must be made.

1/ Is changes here a noun?

2/ Is that changes must be made a relative clause or a noun clause? 

What is the function of this clause? What does it modify?

Quoc 

  
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Marius Hancu  #293817  Thu, 16 Nov 06 09:13 AM
Changes is a plural noun.
  
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Inchoateknowledge  #293828  Thu, 16 Nov 06 09:50 AM
 Tung Quoc wrote:

Please read:

There is a realisation that changes must be made.

1/ Is changes here a noun?

2/ Is that changes must be made a relative clause or a noun clause? 

What is the function of this clause? What does it modify?

Quoc 

All relative clauses are noun clauses!

The realisation is (that) changes must be done.

I do not think  that changes must be made  is a relative clause: there are no two clauses in your sentence, so there is no subordinate clause, no relative (sub) clause.

The noun clause, I would say, is the complement of realisation.

  
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Tung Quoc  #293863  Thu, 16 Nov 06 12:30 PM

Hi,

In short,

that changes must be made is a noun clause and is a complement of  realisation.

Right?

Quoc

  
Garnett  #293872  Thu, 16 Nov 06 01:20 PM
 Inchoateknowledge wrote:
 Tung Quoc wrote:

Please read:

There is a realisation that changes must be made.

1/ Is changes here a noun?

2/ Is that changes must be made a relative clause or a noun clause? 

What is the function of this clause? What does it modify?

Quoc 

I do not think  that changes must be made  is a relative clause: there are no two clauses in your sentence, so there is no subordinate clause, no relative (sub) clause.

The noun clause, I would say, is the complement of realisation.



I don't think that's quite right.

"There is a realisation" is the main clause. "...that changes must be made" is a relative clause introduced by "that".
  
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Inchoateknowledge  #293903  Thu, 16 Nov 06 02:59 PM
 Inchoateknowledge wrote:
 Tung Quoc wrote:

Please read:

There is a realisation that changes must be made.

1/ Is changes here a noun?

2/ Is that changes must be made a relative clause or a noun clause? 

What is the function of this clause? What does it modify?

Quoc 

All relative clauses are noun clauses!

The realisation is (that) changes must be done.

I do not think  that changes must be made  is a relative clause: there are no two clauses in your sentence, so there is no subordinate clause, no relative (sub) clause.

The noun clause, I would say, is the complement of realisation.


I cannot imagine where I got this sentence from:

The realisation is (that) changes must be done.


  
Tung Quoc  #293927  Thu, 16 Nov 06 04:22 PM

Please read:

There is a realisation that changes must be made.

Is that changes must be made a noun clause and a complement of  "realisation" or a noun clause and an apposition?

What type of clause is that changes must be made  and what does it modify?

Q

 
  
Inchoateknowledge  #293998  Thu, 16 Nov 06 08:49 PM

Hi

"There is a realisation that changes must be made."

Sorry, in my previous post I took liberty with your original sentence. I was not attentive enough.

"Is that changes must be made a noun clause and a complement of  "realisation" or a noun clause and an apposition?"

Apposition and relative clause, but not a complement.

that changes must be made is in apposition with realisation

"What type of clause is that changes must be made  and what does it modify?"

a noun clause, and it modifies realisation

  
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