Clause and use of Tenses

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Jackson6612  #327192  Sat, 10 Feb 07 08:23 AM
I remember once my teacher told me that when Present Tense is used in first clause then Present Tense will also be used in second clause. I don't know what does this actually mean? Please explain it. Thank you 
  
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Inchoateknowledge  #327199  Sat, 10 Feb 07 08:32 AM

I do not know why (s)he said that.

I do not know = main clause 1.

why (s)he said that.= subordinate clause 2.

  
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Philip  #327364  Sat, 10 Feb 07 05:11 PM

 Jackson6612 wrote:
I remember once my teacher told me that when Present Tense is used in first clause then Present Tense will also be used in second clause. I don't know what does this actually mean? Please explain it. Thank you 
That doesn't make sense.  Even in conditional sentences ("if you go in there.....") three possibilities exist:

present: "you don't have good sense"

future:  "you will regret it"

command:  "be careful"

  
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Cool Breeze  #327396  Sat, 10 Feb 07 05:44 PM
 Jackson6612 wrote:
I remember once my teacher told me that when Present Tense is used in first clause then Present Tense will also be used in second clause. I don't know what does this actually mean? Please explain it. Thank you 

Hi Jackson6612

You may have misunderstood slightly what your teacher said, or his knowledge of English grammar is very imperfect. Your teacher may have discussed the sequence of tenses, but this grammatical phenomenon does not always require you to use the same tenses in all the clauses of a sentence.

Example:
I knew he lived/lives in Tokyo.

The past tense of the main clause (knew) often leads a native speaker to say lived even if the person in question still lives in Tokyo! This is one of the many inaccuracies of English, and I think your teacher had this in mind when he said whatever he said.

Cheers
CB

  
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Clive  #327429  Sat, 10 Feb 07 06:31 PM

Hi Jackson,

I remember once my teacher told me that when Present Tense is used in first clause then Present Tense will also be used in second clause.

There's no rule that simply says you can't use different tenses in the same sentence. You probably misunderstood what your teacher meant.

Consider this normal example. I live in Toronto, but next year I will move to Montreal.

Best wishes, Clive

  
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Jackson6612  #327582  Sun, 11 Feb 07 06:27 AM

I hope this sentence is correct.

Your teacher may have discussed the sequence of tenses.

Can we use might in place of may? If we cannot do that then please let me know the reason.

Your teacher might have discussed the sequence of tenses.

 

  
Cool Breeze  #327613  Sun, 11 Feb 07 09:20 AM
 Jackson6612 wrote:

I hope this sentence is correct.

Your teacher may have discussed the sequence of tenses.

Can we use might in place of may? If we cannot do that then please let me know the reason.

Your teacher might have discussed the sequence of tenses.


Hi Jackson 6612

All defective auxiliaries or modal auxiliaries (can,coud; will, would; shall, should; may, might; must and ought) can take an infinitive. There are two infintives in both the active and the passive voices in English. As have discussed is a perfect infinitive, Your teacher might have discussed the sequence of tenses is correct English in the right context. Of course it does not mean the same as the same sentence with may.

To learn about the auxiliaries, look them up in a grammar book.

Cheers
CB
  
Jackson6612  #327635  Sun, 11 Feb 07 10:39 AM

can,coud; will, would; shall, should; may, might; must and ought are auxiliary verbs. CB, I don't think they have infinitives, such as to shall, to may etc.

CB said: ''There are two infintives in both the active and the passive voices in English.''

What are these two infinitives?

Your teacher may have discussed the sequence of tenses.

Your teacher might have discussed the sequence of tenses.

What is difference between the meanings of above two sentences?

  
Marius Hancu  #327674  Sun, 11 Feb 07 12:17 PM
What is difference between the meanings of the above two sentences?

Your teacher may have discussed the sequence of tenses.
Your teacher might have discussed the sequence of tenses.

Not much, perhaps more doubt/hypothetical thinking in might, but many don't accept that.
  
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