Closed: Chinese / Koreans in groups vs. others...

Hi all.

Quoting Chamaleon:
"Don't censor me because I have the gall to make an uncomfortable statement."

Thanks for the word "gall", it was new for me, I checked the meaning and I don't know if you meant "audacity" or "insolence".

In case you meant "audacity", let me say that I don't see any audacity in making uncomfortable statements, on the contrary, that is a frequent practique among we, humans, we are doing it continually, stereotypes come from that habit, ethocentrism too (my view)

In case you meant "insolence", then I say nothing.

But I am not calling you intolerant or anything, more when you are little moderate and willing to disccus and accept the views of others. In this way the use of thr forum is very rewarding and the aims of it are all accomplished : discussing to learn English awww :D

And... the fact that Elena has taken something out of it (new vocabulary) is the most rewarding part!

Also, to Elena:

Glad you learned a new word. "Gall" is a great word. I was using it in a sort of projected first person. I.e. - someone thought I had the gall to do X, therefore Y.

If my reply post seemed aggressive, I am truly sorry. I am very willing to accept the judgement and opinions of others. Most of that post was aimed at the anonymous poster who suggested my post be removed simply because it offended him or her. I am a big opponent of censorship, and that frustrated me infintely more than anything anyone else has said to this point!

Please! Beat my argument to a pulp! I don't want to believe that one culture is ruder than another any more than the next guy. But if some data supports my conjecture, I have to take that into consideration too.

Thanks for being so rational everyone.

Reply to your note:

Yes! You're exactly right. That quote means "I want to hear counter-arguments and other opinions." A pulp is what is left of something (usually referring to plant matter) after it has been ground-up, destroyed, chopped, etc.

Yes, I agree clive. To be fair, I should really visit these other countries to observe their behavior in a domestic setting. I had planned on visiting China sometime in the near future. The language barrier does concern me somewhat, though I have a couple friends studying there. Maybe they could help me out. A good suggestion!

The context of my question was very narrow. All my observations were based on specific foreign tourist groups touring in the United States. This is the behavior I want to understand. I am sure there is much to be said about Japanese businessmen in continental Asia, but it seems to have little relevence to tour group behavior in Hawaii or at Disney World.

However, I disagree totally, 100% that poorly understood behavior shouldn't be questioned. What is there positive to say about shoving an old lady out of line? Sorry, but this behavoir is just about universally unacceptable. How else am I going to understand this without questioning it? Granted, my data is probably very poor. That's why I appreciate suggestions (see above paragraph). However, I'm a little disappointed that I have had to defend the reason for asking my question rather than discuss any possible answer or engage in a little more constructive criticism (although clive and elena have made some good points and suggestions).

I think I'll stop posting on this topic since it clearly disturbs a lot of people.