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sheela
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Mon, 21 Feb 05 10:01 AM
The language system allows to express a perceived events in different ways using different linguistic resources. Currently I am doing a research based on ideas from Langacker's Cognitive Grammar. Basically Langacker explains sentences through schemas or diagrams such identifying the subject as trajector(tr) and the object as landmark(lm).
Based on this, I would like to know what are the differences between:
a) The vase was smashed
b) The vase smashed
c) The vase is smashed
I am also having problem in displaying it in a diagram form. Please help.
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CalifJim
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Tue, 22 Feb 05 02:01 AM
Sounds rather violent for grammar -- all those vases smashed and so on!
I'm not familiar with Langacker nor with his trajectories and landmarks, sorry. And unfortunately, the format of the forum does not lend itself well to displaying diagrams.
Maybe someone else on the forum will be able to help. I hope so because I'd love to hear more about it myself.
Here's something I Googled up, however: Try this.
It has some "John hit the ball" / "The ball was hit by John" diagrams that seem to be the sort of thing you need for those smashed vases.
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LanguageLover
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Fri, 25 Feb 05 11:55 PM
Dear Sheela,
I also do not know the answer to your question. But there are some linguistic blogs, some of them belong to PhD students. Try them, you may get an answer. Here is my favarite blog, though the material is usually too difficult for me, but you can find lots of lonks to other linguistic blogs: http://semantics-online.org/blog/ . I can recommend you to do write to one of the experts on cognitive grammar and ask him, but it's better to look for the answer yourself before turning to them. I did it once, and to my surprise, I got the answer!
Good luck,
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Casi,
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Cool link, CJ.
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equivocal
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Wed, 02 Mar 05 02:20 AM
Hmm.. I'm not all that familiar but I think it might be like this:
This is a passive construction, so the grammatical subject becomes the trajector, O represents null semantic subject:
O -> Vase(TR)
Here there is no overt or implied cause. I would take it to mean "the vase smashed (on its own)" kind of syntactically like an unaccusative but semantically like a reflexive construction:
Vase(TR) -> Vase(LM)
Here it seems like you see a smashed vase and you are declaring its state:
O -> Vase(TR)
I hope this helps, cognitive grammar really isn't my area of specialisation. All errors are my own.
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LanguageLover
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Wed, 02 Mar 05 10:31 PM
Dear Sheela,
Have you tried google scholar search for finding the articles in which the words "cognitive grammar, trajector, landmark" are mentioned? Give it a try, you'll definitely find something.
scholar.google.com
Good luck
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korin
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Thu, 03 Mar 05 11:26 PM
Hallo Sheela,
Perhaps, you can help me work out the conceptual intergration network of the following blend:
The thermometre of success is the jelaousy of others (S. Dali)
I have come up with a few versions, but all of them seem wrong. At first I thought
it can just be illustrated by 2 input spaces + a generic space (a measuring tool or the indicator of the level of body temperature/success), and the blend (an entity combining
the features from both input spaces), however, according to my lecturer, it is not that
simple. I was told my mappings were not accurate, and I still need one more input space. Moreover, I failed to illustrate properly the idea of fictive motion (trajector/landmark).
So, if you have some time (if anyone has some time), I would really appreciate any help.
Thank you,
Korin
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Casi
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Fri, 04 Mar 05 10:30 AM
I failed to illustrate properly the idea of fictive motion (trajector/landmark).
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I can't help with the mapping but here's something that might help you with fictive motion:
“The mountain range goes all the way from Mexico to Canada,” presents a static scene using motion. The static object, the horizontal, is a trajector that moves in time along the trajectory, from Mexico to Canada. The grammatical construction that evokes this cognitive representation normally assigns the trajector to the subject position and the movement to the verb (“Marie goes to the store”). But in this case the construction uses the label for the trajectory in the subject position: “The mountain range goes from Mexico to Canada.”
Source: http://markturner.org/talmyreview.html
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korin
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Sun, 06 Mar 05 03:59 PM
Thanks, Casi
I have also found some articles concerning this issue. Hopefully, I will sort it out quickly
Korin
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