Comma and semicolon dualism

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Ghost Writer  #244808  Wed, 12 Jul 06 06:46 AM
Sometimes I will be creating a sentence and put a semicolon in; this leads to a new sentence. But would it be correct to use the semicolon is such a way? When using "this" or "that" after a colon or semicolon, what is the correct way to do so?

Example: "Stop sweating over other people's writing, unless they're asking. Concentrate on your own; that's what we're here for."
Should the semicolon have been a colon? Is there a dual exception?
  
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Betsy  #244812  Wed, 12 Jul 06 06:56 AM

Semicolon use
A semicolon following an independent clause [a complete sentence] signals that what follows is also an independent clause whose meaning is of equal importance to the first. Joining two clauses with a semicolon alone is appropriate only when the clauses are closely related and the relationship is clear. If they are not closely related, you probably should make them separate sentences. RULE: Although an independent clause following a semicolon is essentially a complete sentence, it never begins with a capital letter. Unlike a coordinating conjunction [and, but, for, or, nor, so, yet), a conjunctive adverb [however, nevertheless, accordingly, besides, indeed, similarly, then, thus, therefore, that is and others, or a transitional expression ["in fact" or "for example"] cannot be used with a comma to join two independent clauses. Conjunctive adverbs and transitional expressions require a stronger mark of punctuation: a semicolon [I wasn't busy;however, I did not have time to play golf.] 2) "When items in a series contain commas, readers may have difficulty deciding which commas separate parts of the series and which belong within the items. To avoid confusion, put semicolons between elements in a series when one or more contain other punctuation.[Confusing: "I interviewed Debbie Rios, the attorney, Rhonda Marron, the accountant, and the financial director." Edited: "I interviewed Debbie Rios, the attorney; Rhonda Marron, the accountant; and the financial director."] (The Longman Writer's Companion).

source: http://www.drgrammar.org/faqs/#14

  
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Ghost Writer  #244814  Wed, 12 Jul 06 07:00 AM
I know those things already. That source gives basic semicolon insight.
  
Clive  #244836  Wed, 12 Jul 06 07:28 AM

Hi,

Here's a general and subjective comment about semi-colons and colons.

The first time I taught these to my class, I found that everyone's writing became full of them. They appeared in just about every sentence.

Now I tell people that one semi-colon and one colon per essay is enough, and maybe even too much.

Best wishes, Clive

  
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Ghost Writer  #244852  Wed, 12 Jul 06 08:00 AM
I understand the concept that too many semicolons can make a writing look like it came from the late 1800s.

I'm interested in the dualism. I want something to add to my writing toolkit. If the dualism doesn't exist, that's all I need to know. I'm not looking for a subjective opinion.
  
Inchoateknowledge  #244856  Wed, 12 Jul 06 08:24 AM
Despite this, if you look at advanced reading exam papers, the texts abound in dashes, colons... .
  
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Penicillin  #299535  Fri, 01 Dec 06 12:40 PM

Can I put 2 commas in one sentence? e.g:

Firstly, If you've done your job, you'll go.

  
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Clive  #299658  Fri, 01 Dec 06 05:45 PM

Hi,

Can I put 2 commas in one sentence? e.g: Firstly, If you've done your job, you'll go.

Yes, more than one comma is OK.  ( In your example, don't capitalize 'if'. )

Best wishes, Clive

  
Goodman  #299711  Fri, 01 Dec 06 08:54 PM

 Ghost Writer wrote:
I understand the concept that too many semicolons can make a writing look like it came from the late 1800s.

I'm interested in the dualism. I want something to add to my writing toolkit. If the dualism doesn't exist, that's all I need to know. I'm not looking for a subjective opinion.

 

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