Commas in a Series

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Anonymous  #215183  Fri, 14 Apr 06 02:19 AM

Is this comma necessary?

When my family visits, we go to the movies, eat at fancy restaurants, and stay up late at night.

  
Goodman  #215186  Fri, 14 Apr 06 02:35 AM
 Anonymous wrote:

Is this comma necessary?

When my family visits, we go to the movies, eat at fancy restaurants, and stay up late at night.

In AmE, the last comma before "and" is not a common usage.

I like bowling, fishing, going to movies and hanging out with friends.

  
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Grammar Geek  #215202  Fri, 14 Apr 06 04:29 AM

Goodman, I must disagree. The "serial comma," as it's called, it a matter of style. Our house style where I work is to use it.  Either is okay, as long as it's used consistently the same way in all instances. At least within the same document. I greatly prefer it. The proofreader in me wants to add it whenever I see it "missing."

  
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julielai  #215210  Fri, 14 Apr 06 05:23 AM

This question has come up before.

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Grammar Geek is right. Style manuals vary with regard to serial commas.

  
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Goodman  #215411  Fri, 14 Apr 06 07:16 PM
 Grammar Geek wrote:

Goodman, I must disagree. The "serial comma," as it's called, it a matter of style. Our house style where I work is to use it.  Either is okay, as long as it's used consistently the same way in all instances. At least within the same document. I greatly prefer it. The proofreader in me wants to add it whenever I see it "missing."

Barb,

Your disagreement is gracefully accepted. I guess now my question is, is it grammatically wrong not to use serial comma?  After doing some research on the internet, I agree in some cases, serial comma does help eliminated confusions.  My job evolves around technical and instructional writing.  For as long as I know serial comma is not a common practice in service manuals and technical write-ups.  There is a possibility I’d misunderstood the use or been taught wrong in the past.  Noetheless, I learned something here.   Thanks for disagreeing!

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Grammar Geek  #215424  Fri, 14 Apr 06 07:42 PM

I would expect that you have a style guide for your technical manuals that identifies the various conventions that this company wants you to use.  If the serial comma isn't addressed in there, talk to the people responsiple for maintaining an updating the styles guide to see whether it should be to inlcude it or not.  (I'm the person who owns the style guide at my company - hopefully you'll have an easy time identifying who that person is where you work.)

As I said above, it's neither required nor banned - but CONSISTENT use is required. I'm in the group that believes it adds clarity, but it's an opinion, not a rule. Good luck!

  
Goodman  #215436  Fri, 14 Apr 06 08:06 PM

I am almost embarrassed to say I don’t believe such a person exists in my company which I’ve worked for 13 years.  My writing style ( if there is any) is straightly learned and developed in a technical environment.  I am not sure what your company does, but if I were to tell you I was told by my manager that  I was the best procedure and spec writer among a group of 18 engineers, you must think I am kidding.  No I am not.  In semiconductor manufacturing which is the field I am in, Proper English does not seems to be a criteria.  When you said “style guide”, I must admit, I never knew such a position exist.  Out of curiosity, are you in the publishing business?

 

  
Optimus  #215461  Fri, 14 Apr 06 09:30 PM
 Anonymous wrote:

Is this comma necessary?

When my family visits, we go to the movies, eat at fancy restaurants, and stay up late at night.



Here's what my grammar book says:

Though some writers omit the comma before the coordinating conjunction in a series (Breakfast consisted of coffee, eggs and kippers), the final comma is never wrong and it always helps the reader see the last two items as separate.

Confusing: Her new job involves typing, filing and answering correspondence.

Clear:
Her new job involves typing, filing, and answering correspondence.

  
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Grammar Geek  #215478  Fri, 14 Apr 06 10:08 PM
Goodman, I've sent you an e-mail.
  
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