Commas (To comma or not to comma)

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Rosyroja  #95836  Tue, 03 May 05 04:22 PM
We have an ongoing tug-of-war with the surveyors about correct comma usage. Could someone please correct this sentence? Thanks - lunch is riding on it! Smile [:)]

Based on our survey findings and not having evidence to the contrary it is our opinion tha thte shortages reported herein are due to pilferage and/or mis-delivery as alleged while in the care custody and control of the steamship company and/or their agents.
  
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pieanne  #95838  Tue, 03 May 05 04:25 PM
Based on our survey findings, and not having evidence to the contrary, it is our opinion that the shortages reported herein are due to pilferage and/or mis-delivery, as alleged while in the care custody and control of the steamship company and/or their agents.

That's what I'd write.
  
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temico  #95921  Tue, 03 May 05 10:42 PM
To pieanne,

I believe you missed one (,) after "alleged",

"Based on our survey findings, and not having evidence to the contrary, it is our opinion that the shortages reported herein are due to pilferage and/or mis-delivery, as alleged, while in the care custody and control of the steamship company and/or their agents.
  
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pieanne  #96028  Wed, 04 May 05 10:08 AM
You're right Temico, thanks! Smile [:)]
  
MrPedantic  #96185  Wed, 04 May 05 11:41 PM
An alternative version might omit the comma before 'as alleged', and add one after 'care':

"Based on our survey findings, and not having evidence to the contrary, it is our opinion that the shortages reported herein are due to pilferage and/or mis-delivery as alleged, while in the care, custody and control of the steamship company and/or their agents."

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abbie1948  #96198  Wed, 04 May 05 11:54 PM
I'm with Mr. P on this one.
  
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MrPedantic  #96200  Wed, 04 May 05 11:57 PM
PS:

I'm not sure I should bring this up...since lunch depends on it...But the 'while' clause appears to dangle.

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temico  #96208  Thu, 05 May 05 12:09 AM
To MrPedantic,

Omitting the comma before 'as alleged' will mean that the 'mis-delivery' was alleged and NOT both "pilferage and mis-delivery" were alleged. I guess that we will have to ask Rosyroja to confirm which was or were actually alleged in her( I believe) original sentence.
  
MrPedantic  #96213  Thu, 05 May 05 12:18 AM
Hello temico

To my ears, 'as alleged' would apply both to pilferage and misdelivery, if the comma were omitted. I'd be interested to hear other people's opinions though.

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