There has come a new commitment

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Rex  #384014  Mon, 25 Jun 07 09:52 AM

Our correspondent says in contrast, China, a close ally of Khartoum, sees the conference as an opportunity to turn attention on those rebel groups that have not signed up to a peace agreement.

Ms Rice will be joined at the summit by French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner - a recent appointee by new president Nicolas Sarkozy.

For the last four years Gallic interest in Darfur has largely been limited to watching from an air base in neighbouring Chad, says the BBC's Jonah Fisher in Paris.

But with a new leader and Socialist foreign minister, there has come a new commitment to get involved, he says.

At a joint news conference on Sunday, Ms Rice and Mr Kouchner said there was a need for decisive action.

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I think the penultimate sentence of the above is flawed.

Is it correct to say ... there has come a new commitment to get involved ?

For me the  words  'there has come a new commitment to get involved '  make no sense.

It will be correct to say .... there is a new commitment to get involved.


  
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Marius Hancu  #384053  Mon, 25 Jun 07 12:25 PM
No, the original is correct.
  
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Rex  #384092  Mon, 25 Jun 07 01:59 PM

Marius
I accept if you write the following:

1.But with a new leader and Socialist foreign minister, there is a new commitment to get involved, he says.

The sentence in question  is:

2.But with a new leader and Socialist foreign minister, there has come a new commitment to get involved, he says.

Does the meaning of the second sentence is equals to the meaning of my first sentence?

I can't understand the meaning of the sentence in question. I mean I haven't learn to write sentences in this way.

You can say there has been a commitment for doing something.





  
Marius Hancu  #384097  Mon, 25 Jun 07 02:16 PM
there is: it's about present state (more static)

there has come: it's about latest progress/process (more dynamic, reflects latest history)

Both are possible.

The meaning is:

There has (recently) appeared the commitment to doing something ....

Just listen to it and accept it. As I told you already, those guys know better English than you do. For the time being, they are a model to follow, not criticize, for you.

  
Yankee  #384100  Mon, 25 Jun 07 02:22 PM
Hi Rex

'There has come' is much more unusual than 'there has been' or 'there is', but it is correct in the sentence. 
You could reword the sentence this way:

'A new commitment to get involved has come with a new leader and Socialist foreign minister'.

  
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Rex  #384216  Mon, 25 Jun 07 08:42 PM

Marius wrote the following:
As I told you already, those guys know better English than you do.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Those people are like you; I mean they know everything in English.
I can never ever emulate you or those people who write articles.

If I know English like Marius, this forum is a useless one for me. I am sending questions to learn things I don't know.
There are so many aspects in English which I don't know. I will send, as usual, questions to the forum. I am glad that I learn unknown grammar aspects direct from the horse's mouth.

It goes same with my knowledge of French, Russian and Latin. I have a limited knowledge of French, Russian and Latin.
I have been sending questions to those forums for years; my abilities are limited even in other languages.

I am used to ask help from Cisco networking forums and UNIX forums. I am no expert in those fields either; I know a lot but not everything.
  
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