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Anonymous  #479811  Thu, 21 Feb 08 02:08 PM
 Can anyone tell me why all Chinese and Japanese companies with "Co" and "Ltd" in their name, put a comma between the two?  For example, Sanyo lists its full name as "Sanyo Electric Co., Ltd."  I have yet to find a Chinese company which doesn't put the comma between the two, but as an English person (well educated) I just can't see the purpose of it, and it looks totally wrong.  Any ideas?
  
Maruko  #479826  Thu, 21 Feb 08 02:37 PM

Hi,

I don't know why they write "Co.,Ltd".I think it's wrong.Smile

In England "Co. Ltd" is used after the name of a company. U are an English person (well educated) of course u know that.

 

  
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Grammar Geek  #479832  Thu, 21 Feb 08 02:56 PM

Hello,

Maruko, I'm not sure what "ur" point was - the orignal poster was asking about the use of the comma, not "Co. Ltd."

Many American style guides advocate for dropping the comma, but others will say that if the company uses it, then you should use their format. My own company has the comma between the main part of the name and the Inc. I think it was more common in year past to alway shave it. I see Apple does not. Microsoft and IBM don't see to even have the Inc. shown on their Web pages. The main point, I guess, is that it's up to the company, and then when you refer to it, you should do your best to use it the same way they do.

  
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Anonymous  #479839  Thu, 21 Feb 08 03:10 PM
 Hi Grammar Geek. Thanks for your input.  Can you explain to me why a company (let's use Sanyo Electric Co. Ltd. as an example) would have a comma in the middle of their name?  Abreviations aside, why would they be called "Sanyo Electric Company, Limited"?  What is the purpose of that comma?  I have yet to see a company from a native Enlgish speaking country do this.
  
Maruko  #479843  Thu, 21 Feb 08 03:17 PM

Grammar Geek thanks for reminding me. 

I mean that in England they don't use comma between  "Co." and "Ltd",OK?

However it may depend on the company ??

Clearly,you may be right because you are American (a native speaker?) while I am only ...^_^

  
Grammar Geek  #479851  Thu, 21 Feb 08 03:30 PM

It's simply what they did when they created their company name. Perhaps previously they were privately held. Smith Builders or Barbara's Pen & Paper. Then they went public and became incorporated. They considered the fact that they are now incorporated to be "additional information, set off by commas." Smith Builders, Inc. Barbara's Pen & Paper, Inc. They use the "Inc." parenthetically.

 

 

  
Anonymous  #479853  Thu, 21 Feb 08 03:36 PM
Grammar Geek, thanks.  I understand what you are saying, but "Inc" isn't part of my question.  Let me rerphrase it.  Imagine I want to start a brand new company called "The Correct Grammar Company Limited".  Would you agree that it is wrong to write it as "The Correct Grammar Co., Ltd."?   To me, it seems wrong, which is why I am posting it here for debate. 
  
Grammar Geek  #479867  Thu, 21 Feb 08 03:59 PM

I'm not as familiar as I need to be about things like Ltd and such, particularly in the UK, to answer that. Maybe a barrister (or is it a soliciator?) would be able to provide the information as whether it's considered parenthatical. However, style is style. If it's simply never the custom in the UK to use the comma, then don't. :)

  
nona the brit  #479868  Thu, 21 Feb 08 03:59 PM

Different countries have different customs.

It wouldn't be correct in many countries, but it's seems that it is standard practise in the ones you mention. When in Rome...

  
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