Two comparatives- elliptical constructions

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Anonymous  #335023  Fri, 02 Mar 07 06:55 PM
    Hi there,

What are the cases when it is okay to omit the verb from a sentence? What about cases when 2 comparatives are used, such as "The higher you go, the farther you see?" I was just wondering if there is a rule for something like this written somewhere.

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Ash.

  
Grammar Geek  #335028  Fri, 02 Mar 07 07:21 PM

Ash, I have to tell you, I'm laughing at myself. When you first asked about elliptical constructions in the chat room, I was thinking about planetary orbits, which are elliptical.

If you leave out the "can" it becomes more like a proverb. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. The higher you go, the more you see.

If you are describing a real situation - go on up to the third floor for the best view of the city - really, the higher you go, the more you can see - in that case, I think it's better with the "can"

  
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CalifJim  #335153  Sat, 03 Mar 07 04:13 AM
omit the verb from a sentence?
Your question is confusing.  You suggest that perhaps comparatives allow the omission of verbs.  Then you give an example with two verbs!  Tongue Tied [:S]

The higher you go, the farther you see.

I can't imagine what kind of rule you can be talking about, because it is certainly neither grammatical nor sensible to say things like The higher you, the farther you.  Smile [:)]

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Grammar Geek  #335158  Sat, 03 Mar 07 04:51 AM
He wants to know about omitting "can" - The higher you go, the further you CAN see. I'm not pyschic - we were in the chat room.
  
Ashtoreth  #336377  Tue, 06 Mar 07 06:25 PM
Hi GrammarGeek and CJ,

Thanks for answering my questions, I had written this post when it was awfully late but I was sure I couldn't sleep soundly unless I got this figured- so I guess thats' why it mayn't have made a lot of sense

I agree, there may be verbs in the sentence, but the verb in question is the one that is sometimes omitted in the second part of the sentence: "The higher you go, the farther you can see."

In any case, I think Grammargeek's argument makes sense; it may be omitted in a poetic or proverbial context, or for emphasis. But I've seen instances where this verb (can) is omitted in formal literature: "The higher the sales, the better the..." and so on.

Is this acceptable?

Thanks,
Ashtoreth.
PS: Ashtoreth is a "she."


  
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Case Assigner  #336384  Tue, 06 Mar 07 06:53 PM
In my opinion can is a modal verb here that expresses ability. It can be omitted, because the ability to see more the higher you go is kind of granted, isn´t it?

Is this one really a case of verb omission? I do not really think so.....
  
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