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Kroskris  #232262  Sun, 04 Jun 06 03:19 AM

read strunk's rule on this, but still not sure if i gor it right.  Is "compared with" used for contrasting things with differences. Is "compared to" used for comparing similar things? Please give examples for illustration.

What is more correct:  "The agriculture sector grew 50% this year compared to last year." "or compared with last year."Big Smile [:D]

  
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Mister Micawber  #232278  Sun, 04 Jun 06 05:07 AM

Welcome to English Forums, Kroskris.

Honestly, Strunk's rule-- and Fowler's before him-- are ignored by most every native speaker now alive.  If you must differentiate, use with for more extended or in-depth comparisons, and to for simpler ones.

  
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Clive  #232284  Sun, 04 Jun 06 05:23 AM

Hi Kroskris,

Welcome to the Forum.

My dictionary says that compare  followed by to often expresses similarities, and that with often implies a greater degree of formal analysis. That sounds about right to me.

However, it goes on to note that in current usage, to and with are often interchangeable. So, I would consider Strunk rather out-of-date on this.

What is more correct:  "The agriculture sector grew 50% this year compared to last year." "or compared with last year." Either sounds OK to me. 

[As a minor comment, it's good to get in the habit of using capital letters to start a sentence, for proper names and for the pronoun 'I'.] 

Best wishes, Clive

  
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Marius Hancu  #232351  Sun, 04 Jun 06 11:47 AM
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compare with; compare to


The usual phrase is compare with, which means "to place side by side, noting differences, and similarities between":

Let us compare his goals with his actual accomplishments.
 


Compare to = to observe or point only to likenesses between:

The psychologist compared this action  to Hinckley's assassination attempt.


Garner, Modern American Usage, p. 167
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Marius Hancu  #232352  Sun, 04 Jun 06 11:57 AM
Also:

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compare

  . verb 1 (often compare to/with) estimate, measure, or note the
similarity or dissimilarity between. 2 (compare to) point out or
describe the resemblances of (something) with. 3 (usu. compare with)
be similar to or have a specified relationship with another thing or
person.

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Anonymous  #555514  Sat, 16 Aug 08 03:07 PM
I am really surprised to find that either "to" or "with" can be used. As a child I was always told that only "compare with" was correct.

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Tanit  #555519  Sat, 16 Aug 08 03:23 PM
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I am really surprised to find that either "to" or "with" can be used. As a child I was always told that only "compare with" was correct.


There was a famous song titled "Nothing compares to you" and sung by Sinead O 'Connor in the '90s ...
  
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Anonymous  #555954  Sun, 17 Aug 08 10:34 PM
So Shakespeare didnt get a very good grounding in English Grammar, eh?

Shall I compare thee to a Summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And Summer's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And oft' is his gold complexion dimm'd;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance or nature's changing course untrimm'd:
But thy eternal Summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest;
Nor shall Death brag thou wanderest in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou growest:

So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.
             
Sonnet #18

 I rest my case
  
Clive  #555989  Mon, 18 Aug 08 01:49 AM
Hi,
Beautiful, of course.

But art thou suggesting that we should all be using the same grammar today that Shakespeare used in the 16th./17th. century? (:P) Stick out tongue

Best wishes, Clive
  
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