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Dmcole  #131530  Sun, 28 Aug 05 06:53 PM
Hiya.

I am volunteering on an open source computer application project, helping out with documentation.

We are working on a section of the program that handles lists of persons, with their names, addresses, etc.

A small controversy has arisen: You -- and I -- might know this function as a "contact manager." One member of the team insists that this should be a "contacts manager."

For example, his proposed wording is for the menu is:

Contacts
-> Manage contacts
-> Contacts categories

I agree with two-thirds of his suggestion; it's the last line that has me stymied (I think it should be "Contact categories").

Doesn't "contact" take on a plural singularity in some instances?

Muddying the water a bit is that I believe my nemisis is from the UK, Australia or New Zealand and I have a sneaky feeling that American English does treat "contact" as a singular plurality, while British English does not.

Any insights would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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pieanne  #131535  Sun, 28 Aug 05 07:01 PM

Hello, DMC, welcome to the English Forums!

Let me try: In "contact manager", "contact" is treated as an adjective, and doesn't take an -s. But if you use it with an -s, I think it should be "contacts' manager", possessive form, manager of the contacts.

Other members may correct me, though...

 

  
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MrPedantic  #131607  Mon, 29 Aug 05 12:09 AM

Not a correction; an alternative:

Contacts
-> Manage
-> Categories

(Cf. the Tables menu in Word: it doesn't repeat the word 'table' beside every option.)

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CalifJim  #131659  Mon, 29 Aug 05 05:00 AM
Contacts
-> Manage contacts
-> Contact categories

I don't normally say or hear "buses drivers", "trucks drivers", "cars dealers", "cards dealers", or similar expressions, so I doubt I would say "contacts categories".  Smile [:)]  If a contact is essentially an address, and you wouldn't say "addresses manager", why would you say "contacts manager"?  Or does your hold-out say "addresses manager", too? Tongue Tied [:S]

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Dmcole  #131858  Mon, 29 Aug 05 05:24 PM
Thanks for these thoughts ... it turns out this fellow's first language is not English, but French. I suspect there is something in the Romance languages that keeps the double-plural.

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pieanne  #131861  Mon, 29 Aug 05 05:40 PM

Yes, we'd say (in French)

- catégories: - contacts (because they suppose there will be many)

                    - ...

(there are many categories, on of them being "contacts")

/or

- catégories de contacts.

(here we are talking about the contacts, and there are many categories of them)

 

 

  
nona the brit  #132118  Tue, 30 Aug 05 09:12 AM
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CalifJim  #132745  Thu, 01 Sep 05 05:30 AM
Regarding his being French:

Ask him whether "tail" should be singular or plural in
"All the dogs were wagging their tail/tails."

Although it depends how proficient he is with 'the' English, I'll bet he'll say "tail"!  (Right, Pieanne?)

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