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officewriter
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Fri, 13 May 05 05:35 PM
Is the following sentence correct related to hyphens and using "served" rather than "serve"?
"All sponsors will be accepted on a first-come, first-served basis."
Thank you.
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pieanne
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Fri, 13 May 05 05:42 PM
Hello, Officewriter, welcome to the Forums!
Your sentence looks quite fine to me, but maybe wait for another opinion?
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abbie1948,
4 yr 197 days ago
I agree, Pieanne
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ludikris
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Fri, 13 May 05 09:37 PM
I believe both can be used since the sentence describes what and not who or when something will happen in the future...
If you are the first person to come, you will be the first person I serve, she serves or the person who gets served.
It's really a matter of choice or preference in this case.
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abbie1948
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Sat, 14 May 05 02:06 AM
Hi ludikris. fair point, but I'm afraid in this instance it is not a matter of opinion, but a matter of usage. The expression is First-Come, First-Served
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ranchhand
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Sun, 15 May 05 07:14 AM
Googled:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,550,000 English pages for "first come first serve".
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,520,000 English pages for "first come first served".
UK Pages Only:
Results 1 - 10 of about 265,000 for "first come first served".
Results 1 - 10 of about 30,300 for "first come first serve".
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Mister Micawber
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Sun, 15 May 05 07:25 AM
What about the hyphenation, RH-- any interesting results?
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ranchhand
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Sun, 15 May 05 07:41 AM
I didn't check, Mr Micawber. I don't think, though I could be wrong, that that type of Google search recognizes hyphens. Also, hyphens mark newer collocations in English. They aren't necessary for well established idioms.
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Mister Micawber
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Sun, 15 May 05 07:53 AM
I was just curious. Yes, I recall that Google does not sort by them. I just had a quick look, and both forms ('serve' and 'served') seem to be represented in both the hyphenated and unhyphenated forms. Interestingly-- but also expectedly-- it is the adjectival form that seems to require hyphenation, e.g. 'first-come, first-served campgrounds'.
I've been trying to reconstruct the grammar. Although the BrE results are weighted toward 'serve', I see the original as something like:
'(Those who) first come (are) first served.'
I can't find a grammar for 'serve'.
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