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HSS  +  564096 Tue, 09 Sep 08 01:05 PM

The following is an excerpt from a book I'm reading:

But ... as bad as it was, I learned something about myself. That I could go through something like that and survive. I mean, I know it could have been worse --- a lot worse --- but for me, it was all I could have handled at the time. And I learned from it.

Shouldn't "I could have handled" be "I could handle"?

Hiro/ Sendai, Japan

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Huevos  +  564113 Tue, 09 Sep 08 02:15 PM
 It could be either. "I could have handled" is subjunctive. "I could handle" is indicative.
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Cool Breeze  +  564138 Tue, 09 Sep 08 04:10 PM
 Like you, I would prefer I could handle since whatever the person "could go through" really happened.

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HSS  +  564295 Wed, 10 Sep 08 12:09 AM

HSS

But ... as bad as it was, I learned something about myself. That I could go through something like that and survive. I mean, I know it could have been worse --- a lot worse --- but for me, it was all I could have handled at the time. And I learned from it.

Yes, and I think "and" instead of "but" is more like it. Also, "all" should be "the least"??? I can't get this part. Anybody, please, enlighten me on this.

Hiro/ Sendai, Japan

HSS
Cool Breeze  +  564438 Wed, 10 Sep 08 10:06 AM
HSS

HSS

But ... as bad as it was, I learned something about myself. That I could go through something like that and survive. I mean, I know it could have been worse --- a lot worse --- but for me, it was all I could have handled at the time. And I learned from it.

Yes, and I think "and" instead of "but" is more like it. Also, "all" should be "the least"??? I can't get this part. Anybody, please, enlighten me on this.

 

I agree that and would be a better conjunction but I wouldn't change all to the least. All means pretty much the same as "the most" or "the maximum". The speaker is saying that he wouldn't have been able to handle a bigger burden or a greater task. The excerpt isn't particularly grammatical because it appears to be not from a written text but from someone's train of thought. This is obvious from That I could go through... That is a conjunction which normally begins a subordinate clause, not a sentence.

Another feature indicative of colloquial style is the last sentence, which begins with and. And doesn't usually begin a sentence. There are several other colloquialisms.

CB

HSS  +  564833 Thu, 11 Sep 08 08:05 AM

Hi,

Just why do you think the author used "but" there? I mean, isn't it almost wrong to use it in the sentence? It does not conncet the clauses properly. Or, does it?

Hiro/ Sendai, Japan

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Cool Breeze  +  564838 Thu, 11 Sep 08 08:16 AM
HSS

Just why do you think the author used "but" there? I mean, isn't it almost wrong to use it in the sentence? It does not conncet the clauses properly. Or, does it?

Hiro/ Sendai, Japan

 

No, it doesn't. Don't the Japanese ever make grammatical mistakes or mistakes in syntax when they think? Smile

CB

Huevos  +  564864 Thu, 11 Sep 08 09:53 AM
Cool Breeze
“No, it doesn't.”
I don't agree. In my opinion "and" would not be at home in this context. If we simplify the sentence it makes it clearer, to me at least, that "but" is correct. "It could have been worse, but it was all I could handle". How is "but" wrong here?
Cool Breeze  +  564900 Thu, 11 Sep 08 12:26 PM
Huevos
“I don't agree. In my opinion "and" would not be at home in this context. If we simplify the sentence it makes it clearer, to me at least, that "but" is correct. "It could have been worse, but it was all I could handle". How is "but" wrong here?

 

Fine. Disagreeing is normal in life. To me, the incorrect use of the perfect infinitive after could and some other stylistic devices used in the passage make it a little inexact, which may even have been the author's intention. That's why I don't really know what he had in mind when he said/wrote those words.  And I don't particularly care what he intended to say anyway. Smile

CB

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