New2grammar  +  539482 Thu, 10 Jul 08 08:32 PM Police are seeing high tech criminal rings with highly secured networks being infiltrated for personal gains. The conventional way of fighting crime with weapons are completely powerless to stop these cyber criminal activities. Are there any mistakes? Thanks. New2grammar Joined on Tue, Nov 21 2006 Veteran Member 7,676 Who wants to go sailing around the world with me?

	Grammar Geek  +  539485 Thu, 10 Jul 08 08:37 PM Hi N2G Police are seeing high tech criminal rings with highly secured networks being infiltrated for personal gains. The criminal rings have the higly secured networks? Who is infiltraing them? Who is gaining? The conventional way {I'd use "method"} of fighting crime with weapons {perhaps you mean fire-arms -- surely having cyber-sleuths gives law enforcement a different type of weapon.} is completely ineffectivepowerless to stop in stopping these cyber criminals activities. Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,660 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!

	New2grammar  +  539488 Thu, 10 Jul 08 08:43 PM Police are seeing high tech criminal rings, with highly secured networks being infiltrated for personal gains. I feel 'with' could be interpreted in two different ways: 1: the possession of whatever comes before it, in this case, criminal rings. 2. an example of the subject. I think the latter requires a comma. To answer your questions. (The quote function is not working :( ) The criminal rings have the higly secured networks?  no. Criminal rights are infiltrating secured networks. Who is infiltraing them?   Criminals Who is gaining? Criminals New2grammar Commas

	Grammar Geek  +  539497 Thu, 10 Jul 08 08:55 PM Then say "high-tech criminal rings that are infiltrating highly securted networks.  (No need to say "for personal gains." Why else would they be criminals?) Grammar Geek

	New2grammar  +  539500 Thu, 10 Jul 08 08:59 PM Thanks, GG. Is the following OK? I'm learning how to use with. Police are seeing an increased in criminal activities, with a growing number of secured networks being infiltrated including ATM networks. New2grammar